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Suggestion

Hey Faulkston,

Are you available for me to bring a suggestion on the pirate infobox that could improve it drastically.

Check out User:Avastme1/Sandbox for the full explanation on how the infobox has changed and see the differences.

Regards, Kris. Avastme Talk 19:08, 29 November 2012 (PST)

Feel free to discuss any changes to the pirate infobox template here.
Please do note that by policy images are not permitted as part of YPPedia user signatures. -- Faulkston 19:23, 29 November 2012 (PST)

Another P.S. When you upload an Image it gives you the option of licences... Why not just create MediaWiki:Licences with the list of licences so we can automatically select "portrait" etc.? Avastme Talk 19:30, 29 November 2012 (PST)

There's already a field available (the file description) to include the image tag. The tags are not necessarily licenses, so it might not be the best option to include a choice of image tags in a list of licences. -- Faulkston 19:35, 29 November 2012 (PST)
Well using logic you are giving the copyright notice to ooo for using their images yadda yadda... Anyway here's a list that can be put into the licences: User:Avastme1/Licences, Will work just the same as tagging (or should do) =]

Enjoy, Kris.

What about tags which have parameters? Using the license popup menu to specify a tag would replace one step (entering the tag in the file description during upload) with two (selecting the "license" during upload and then editing the image description afterwards to add parameters). That is somewhat cumbersome. It may result in images having incompletely filled out tags which other editors have to correct.
If the tags with parameters are left out of the "license" list, that makes the tag procedure inconsistent (depending on the tag, use either the image upload description or the "license" popup menu). -- Faulkston 20:11, 29 November 2012 (PST)
Oh just a also subnote, I added a M template (speedy movement), example usage: M :D Enjoy ;)

Move Files

Ahoy Faulkston. When ye get a chance can you move all the files in Category:Candidates_for_speedy_move for me. Just move the files, ignore all the editing pages to fix links as I will be doing that myself, just leave a message on my talk page soon as you moved so I can fix all the links =] Thanks, Kris. Avastme Talk 14:07, 3 December 2012 (PST)

Got a load of files waiting in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion for you also :3 Enjoy Avastme Talk 01:28, 4 December 2012 (PST)

Noticeboard-only trophy images

Hey, can you update:

Regards, Kris.Avastme Talk 13:40, 6 December 2012 (PST)

The second trophy image isn't used in an official manner and is thus not locked to further editing. Any editor can add the required parameters to its use of the trophy template. -- Faulkston 19:25, 6 December 2012 (PST)

RE: Ship images

Sorry dear, Am using the scene editor and it automatically saves it without the ocean background. Will eventually get around to updating all the images anyway so not a problem as much. Just keeping myself busy with updating flag and crew information. And sorry about the mishappen on the forum the other day, was only intended as a joke :( Regards, Kris.Avastme Talk 19:25, 9 December 2012 (PST)

If you're referring to this post, it's Fannon you need to apologize to, not me. -- Faulkston 19:30, 9 December 2012 (PST)
(facepalm) sorry xD but anyway still trying to work out how to set a sea background on the scene images when outputting :( probs will mess about with the java code later on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avastme1 (talk • contribs)
I believe what some editors have done previously is to either join several in-game screenshots together manually (quite a bit of work) or set their screen resolution to some very large size (using the utility The Wonderful Icon or similar) before capturing an image. -- Faulkston 19:38, 9 December 2012 (PST)
For sake of being uber lazy and saving over an hour of work, I'll just edit the java to set transparency to the water.png using a repeat effect and just use the scene editor ;) saves a lot more effort :3Avastme Talk 04:40, 11 December 2012 (PST)
If that results in a reasonably similar looking image to what's displayed in-game, that would be acceptable. If not, other editors will no doubt upload suitable replacement images. -- Faulkston 11:14, 11 December 2012 (PST)

RE:Cirdan

Didn't feel like messing too much with his namespace :3 Regards, KrisAvastme Talk 12:01, 11 December 2012 (PST)

I created the pirate article Cirdan which is not in the user namespace of the editor Greyhavens. The pirate article can be edited freely; user namespace pages should not be. -- Faulkston 12:04, 11 December 2012 (PST)

Fix Files

Ahoy Faulkston, Can you by any chance move the 4 items at the top of this list Category:Candidates_for_speedy_move ~ Cheers, Kris. Avastme Talk 11:02, 14 December 2012 (PST)

Ermm

You know you want to do me a favour and all =]

Well I kinda messed up with the file names xD Can you move all the following files for me:

Thanks, Kris. Avastme Talk 18:35, 19 December 2012 (PST)

P.S.

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•。★Holidays!★ 。* • ˚。
° 。 ° ˛˚˛ *__Π____*。*˚
˚ ˛ •˛•˚ */______/~＼。˚ ˚ ˛
˚˛ •˛• ˚ ｜ 田田 ｜門｜ ˚

Dated statements

What is preferred here, "Currently" or "As of [date]"? On Wikipedia, the former is highly discouraged, because it is impractical to find out the actual current date. I am asking because this edit was partly reverted. -- Chupchup 08:32, 24 December 2012 (PST)

The changes were reinstated later. Dated statements are preferable, otherwise it requires looking at a page's history to get a sense of when "currently" was applicable. It doesn't seem worth the effort to change all articles to use "as of [date]" - obviously for some articles any required dates may no longer be easily found.
Contrast this situation with the precise dates appearing in various blockade histories. -- Faulkston 10:30, 24 December 2012 (PST)
Aye, I'm occasionally coming across pages that say "currently" which were last edited five years ago. Not just pirate, crew or flag articles, but puzzle and game mechanic articles too. A similar one that makes me wince is opening sentence of the all of the familiar articles - "The monkey is one of the four five six seven eight types of familiar." --Belthazar451 16:24, 24 December 2012 (PST)
I'd note that the phrase "Currently Somepirate is captain of Somecrew" has basically the same semantics as "Somepirate is captain of Somecrew". An article can still be out of date but won't give the impression it is up to date because it uses the word "currently". -- Faulkston 16:39, 24 December 2012 (PST)

Notice

Didn't notice ^_^ Just was going through Special:WantedPages and saw some trinkets and templates missing so was just tidying up =] 27,829 pages left to do :D

Avastme Talk 16:48, 30 December 2012 (PST)

Move

Ahoy, can you move Choking Hazard (Meridian) to Choking Hazard (Viridian) as it's dormant and belongs in the correct old name

Regards, Kris. Avastme Talk 23:24, 1 January 2013 (PST)

Why should it be under Choking Hazard (Viridian) when the flag currently exists (albeit dormant - I checked) on the Meridian Ocean? -- Faulkston 23:27, 1 January 2013 (PST)
Because it went dormant on Viridian and thus historical :P Avastme Talk 23:28, 1 January 2013 (PST)
It was carried over to the Meridian Ocean through the ocean merge. The fact that the flag went dormant on the Viridian Ocean can be recorded in the article. -- Faulkston 23:30, 1 January 2013 (PST)
Oh ok, thats fine =] Just wanted to make sure it was in the correct name, guess you can delete the Viridian page then Avastme Talk 23:32, 1 January 2013 (PST)
The Meridian Ocean pirate Edley is a flag member of Choking Hazard. It's going to be a bit strange to have links in that pirate article to a Viridian flag article. -- Faulkston 23:45, 1 January 2013 (PST)
On a related note, your attention is requested at Talk:Delirium (Flag). A simple move to match other disambiguation titles. I was unable to find a template for requested move, we might consider making one? Chupchup 10:25, 2 January 2013 (PST)
Ahoy Chupchup! We do indeed have a template for move, {{M}} (Usage). The command for it is {{M|Reason|New page}}. For example you would want to put {{M|Better suited into a new name|Delirium}}
Regards, Kris. Avastme Talk 11:20, 2 January 2013 (PST)

Undelete old ocean flag and crew categories

Category:Midnight Ocean flags and Category:Midnight Ocean crews, along with other legacy flag and crew categories, were deleted last year after the ocean merge. However, Category:Sage Ocean crews, Category:Midnight Ocean pirates, and others are still alive and well. Isn't flag and crew history worth preserving for all oceans? Chupchup 22:04, 2 May 2013 (PDT)

I'm not privy to the reasons behind removing the categories you mentioned. -- Faulkston 12:34, 5 May 2013 (PDT)
Reasons were discussed here. -- Franklincain (t/c) 18:19, 3 July 2013 (PDT)

Queen Anne's Revenge

It may be the case that there's currently no flag named Queen Anne's Revenge on Meridian, but "Queen Anne's Revenge" was written on the noticeboard. Maybe it's just a temporary rename of Queen's Revenge, I don't know - we might have to ask someone. Since you've (unfortunately) waited for this blockade to drop off the top before calling my edit into question, you're simply going to have to take my word for it. I checked twice - given how I produce the code for the blockade lists, there's no way for me to accidentally add a flag I've never seen before. --Belthazar451 20:57, 25 June 2013 (PDT)

Queen Anne's Revenge it is then. -- Faulkston 20:51, 26 June 2013 (PDT)

disambig updates

How do you find these disambiguation errors so easily? I want to know, so that I'll be better able to fix these errors myself, instead of leaving them half-done for you or others to fix. Thanks in advance! -- Franklincain (t/c) 13:39, 21 July 2013 (PDT)

By comparing this special page against a list of articles which reasonably link to disambiguation pages.
Upon creating a disambiguation page, it's also good to check the "What links here" special page. -- Faulkston 15:03, 21 July 2013 (PDT)

In-game caps

Hey... -East and -West suffixes are caps in-game. Just FYI. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chupchup (talk • contribs)

Aye and now to wrangle the pirate infobox to not force lowercase such suffixes. -- Faulkston 21:26, 29 July 2013 (PDT)
The BK parameter should do the trick according to this section on the template talk page. -- Faulkston 21:33, 29 July 2013 (PDT)

Trinkets page of deleted pirate

Do we preserve trinket lists along with personal pirate pages? Currently, Protects/trinkets is blanked. It should either be deleted or restored and re-linked to the deleted pirate's page. Chupchup 14:38, 14 October 2013 (PDT)

The collection listing may be far from recent e.g. it could have been transferred to a display case or sold. There's far more value in preserving the deleted/renamed pirate's article, so trinket listings are probably minor things to preserve. -- Faulkston 18:53, 14 October 2013 (PDT)

Usefulness of updating an article six times a month

Article history: Soldier. This pirate maintains an exact count of trinkets on his page and updates it slavishly, 6-10 times per month. What is the wisdom of having an exact number in the article and what is the point of updating an article so frequently? I attempted to replace the exact number with an approximate so that updates did not need to be made so often, but I was reverted. Consensus or at least, a third opinion would be helpful here. Thank you. Chupchup 11:59, 30 October 2013 (PDT)

Is the exact number of trinkets owned the most interesting fact about this pirate? I would certainly hope not. At least maintaining a trinket collection display (present in the article) gives some sort of indication which trinkets a pirate might be collecting or willing to trade. -- Faulkston 20:33, 30 October 2013 (PDT)
Apparently this user thinks it is the most interesting fact. I have been reverted a second time. He is showing ownership issues as well, demanding to manage "his page" by himself. Chupchup 07:22, 31 October 2013 (PDT)
First of all if I care about my trinket collection is none of your business. You can blame me for the modifies on Yppedia but you can't blame me if I find interesting counting my trinkets and update my collection. Trinkets are one of the reasons for me to play PuzzlePirates (as a lot of other people). You like to edit Yppedia pages and I like to collect trinkets. After that, I will try to update my page less often, once a week perhaps, or twice, and the number of trinkets will be updated every 100 trinkets (2000,2100,2200...) so I will edit it MUCH less, since I add few trinkets everytime. I don't understand but why you spend your time looking at what I do....Sorry for what happened. Accept my apologies and I'll do my best to not do this mistake again. Soldier , 31 October 2013 (PDT)

Speedy delete request

Could you take a look at deleting Proud To Love so that we can move over Summer Attack for its article history? Proud To Love is a cut-and-paste move of a renamed crew, so in order to do it properly we need to delete it first and then make the page move. It's been requested for a while. Thanks. Chupchup 11:15, 18 November 2013 (PST)

Done. -- Faulkston 16:56, 18 November 2013 (PST)

histmerge

Am I right that you, as an admin, can perform a histmerge to repair a cut-and-paste move? What is your opinion on the discussion at Talk:Fleurs? Chupchup 18:24, 3 January 2014 (PST)

I do not believe it would be a good idea to perform a history merge between a user name space page and one in the main name space due to moves involved. I'll check with other administrators and the wiki Ocean Master what the current policy is on creating pirate articles from information a user has entered on their user page. -- Faulkston 11:47, 4 January 2014 (PST)

Supplementary time charts

Ahoy! I've noticed that you regularly keep the supplementary time charts for the category:activity lists updated, so I wanted to ask: is there any special reason why each article needs two timecharts? I was considering merging them all, but there might be good reasons not to. It's a good idea to find out why a greenhouse isn't painted green before assuming it needs painting :p --Therobotdude 21:17, 17 May 2014 (PDT)

How do you propose to merge some of the time charts where one presentation is ordered alphabetically and the other by availability time? Note that the availability time is not always comprised of simple sortable data compatible with sortable wikimedia tables. -- Faulkston 23:59, 17 May 2014 (PDT)
You may have meant that you would put the two time chart views onto the same article page. That might work provided the page did not get too long. -- Faulkston 00:06, 18 May 2014 (PDT)
I meant merging the two charts into one chart, yeah. Having two charts could well make the page long, and the ideal case would still be one chart. To overcome the issue of sortable data I would've suggested using the data-sort-value and adding that to a series of templates which can determine the key automatically (so e.g. for timeslots 1-24, the earliest occupied timeslot becomes the sortkey). However I realise this functionality doesn't work on our wiki. Perhaps an idea for the future, unless there's another way to specify a sort key? --Therobotdude 06:42, 18 May 2014 (PDT)
Could possibly be achieved by using ordinary string sorting, if the template outputs <span style="display: none;">EARLIEST_HOUR</span> in front of data, for EARLIEST_HOUR = integer 0 to 23. This would be like a hidden key. Maybe too much work to implement though :p. --Therobotdude 07:25, 18 May 2014 (PDT)
And editors would need to adhere to the standard way to specify available times, instead of using ET, European time, Central European time etc. It's always possible to provide templates to do time zone conversion - as long as editors use them. -- Faulkston 09:06, 18 May 2014 (PDT)
A little box at the top of each page describing the templates and how they work might be the answer to that. From what I can see, folk dont really know how the time_chart_entry template works, so they just enter in "random" and copy everyone else. Re the sortable table - I've rigged up a proof of concept here (although I had to modify the existing templates a little). By the way we should probably move this off your talk page, but I'm not sure where it ought to go... --Therobotdude 10:24, 18 May 2014 (PDT)

RFA

Ahoy - could I call upon your bureaucratic powers to process this RFA? Cheers. --Therobotdude 17:30, 22 July 2014 (PDT)

Thank you! --Therobotdude 05:47, 24 July 2014 (PDT)

YPPedia policies

Ahoy Faulkston! Thank you to let me know about the guidelines... Can I make a checklist like this? - Davide1992

Yes, that checklist is okay by the current policies and guidelines. -- Faulkston 09:08, 2 November 2014 (PST)

Redirect page for talk page

When I click on Requiem (crew)'s talk page button, it seems to have been changed to a redirect without being deleted after its moving. https://yppedia.puzzlepirates.com/Talk:Requiem_(crew)

I've removed the redirect. -- Faulkston 02:14, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Roommate icon misnamed image templates

You tagged a handful of "<house type> roommate.png" images as misnamed about 7.5 years ago. Any idea if it was because they were misspelled? (Roomate instead of Roommate) Or was there some other reason? I corrected the misspellings a couple days ago, but wasn't sure if the misnamed image templates should be removed. --Thunderbird 06:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

I think that must have been it, the misspelled file name was the reason for the tagging. After over 7 years though, I don't really remember. Thank you for taking care of the misspellings, I have removed the misnamed image templates from the roommate icon images. -- Faulkston 02:39, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Tequila Sunrise Disambig

Oops, I forgot to check the Special:WhatLinksHere again.... Thanks for fixing those links, mate. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:41, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Faulkston 01:53, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

D'oh!

I can't believe I missed those raven links. Thanks! <3 --Budclare2 02:04, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Lobsters

Lobsters are body-color/claw-color. You've got yours backwards. :( --Budclare2 00:11, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. I was wondering why when I updated the lobster familiar color chart, it seemed to have the order swapped for blue claw and aqua body. I'll rename the individual aqua body and blue claw lobster image. -- Faulkston 01:36, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
File:Lobster-lemon-yellow.png looks backwards too. Sorry! <3 --Budclare2 02:40, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
I edited the image as Dexla originally uploaded it so that it matched the dimensions of the rest of the familiar images. I did not catch the reversal of the color descriptions earlier. I'll rename the image now. -- Faulkston 04:51, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction!

Hi Faulkston,

Thanks for the correction on one of my pirate pages! I appreciate it :) Learned something new again today :D --Scrappy 11:00, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

You are welcome. -- Faulkston 01:53, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Question about edits

Hi Faulkston,

Thank you again for the edits, this time on the Keep the Peace flag page.

I have a question about it, though. I had set that page up with the Dread Ringers crew page as an example because that was the first example I saw of multiple crew/flag info boxes on one page without the use of tables, but using the headers instead, which I think was a handy thing. There the oceans were linked in the headers. In your edit on the flag page, you took those links out of the headers. Weren't they supposed to be in there? Just asking because I'm trying to understand the uniformity in usage of those things :)

Oh, before I forget: One of my pirates is Ilse-West. She was renamed because of the ocean merge. On Cobalt she was named Ilse. The Midnight pirate doesn't have a yppedia page. I've started Ilse on Obsidian as well and I've adjusted her page to properly reflect the changes. Is it possible that my page get's renamed from Ilse-West back to Ilse again as it was before the ocean merge?

Thanks for your help in advance!

--Scrappy 05:50, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

An excellent question about section heading styles. In the past I was directed to wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Section_headings, which among other things suggests that the article title not be repeated in a heading unless it is really needed for clarity, and not to include links. It's always possible to include the link text in the body of the section but putting it in a section heading can cause accessibility problems e.g. for people using screen reading applications. It's curious that the Dread Ringers article hadn't already been edited for section heading style but then it's probably not that commonly visited an article.
Ah, that explains it then :)
There is a disambiguation page Ilse which at the moment references both pirates on Cerulean (Ilse and Ilse-West). The article about the former Midnight and now Cerulean Ocean pirate Ilse would get created as Ilse (Cerulean). If your pirate is named Ilse-West in-game, then that's how the Ilse-West should be titled. -- Faulkston 17:42, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
In Obsidian my pirate is called Ilse. On Cobalt she was of course originally called Ilse too :) She's only been renamed Ilse-West on Cerulean because of the merger.... It's a bit confusing.... Thanks again for everything! --Scrappy 21:06, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Do we use American spelling all over the wiki, since you changed favourite to favorite and colours to colors? Cause in my writing I'm getting myself used to British English for my fantasy book. It's good to know which version to use here on yppedia. Thanks again :) --Scrappy 20:23, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

That was another thing I was told about the YPPedia, to use American spelling. -- Faulkston 07:43, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Ah, good to know. I'll keep it in mind! --Scrappy 13:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, it's me again :D I thought titles had to be written with a capital letter at the start? Especially royal titles? --Scrappy 18:28, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

See wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Titles_of_people, generally capitalize the title only if it is followed by a pirate's name. -- Faulkston 01:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Ah, perfect! Thanks, Faulkston! --Scrappy 16:51, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Subpages without a parent

For example, Orchidee does not exist, but Orchidee/Trinkets is actively being maintained. Should we codify a guideline that says it is required to create a corresponding pirate page if someone wishes to create a page of trinkets or other booty subpage? It seems... unencyclopedic to simply dump a bunch of game objects into a page without making any connection to, at least, a pirate who might own them. Chupchup 04:50, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Any editor could create the pirate article and link to the corresponding trinkets page. To persuade editors to spend some effort to create the pirate article, how about using something similar to the cleanupfor template to request that otherwise orphaned pages get their parent pirate article created? -- Faulkston 04:09, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
It also appears that pirates who have created their page don't even bother linking it to the Trinkets subpage (Masterdodo) so I'm not sure of the utility of participating on YPPedia with these massive orphaned vanity pages? Chupchup 07:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
I understand your point. Even if the more prolific long time YPPedia editors take it upon themselves to create the basic pirate article and link it to the child pages, the pirate article is most likely going to remain basic.
We can craft a guideline, bring it to the YPPedia Oceanmaster's attention and editors vote on the issue. Drop a note on the user talk pages of the editors creating orphaned pages directing them to the issue being voted on, and maybe the problem will solve itself. If those editors wind up creating more than basic parent pirate articles, so much the better :-) -- Faulkston 01:03, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Richstall

I suspect that Richstall represents two separate pirates from the same player. Possibly deleted after quitting in 2007. Should we create Richstall (Emerald) and rename the current one to Richstall (Hunter)? Chupchup 22:53, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Or we could add a section to the existing article describing the now deleted Hunter Ocean pirate, sourcing information from the article edit history? -- Faulkston 02:52, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Done. How's that? Chupchup 13:50, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
That is good. -- Faulkston 03:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Sonicbang

Can you work out what (if) I did wrong at Sonicbang? I first moved the article from its old name, then I created a new pirate avatar at what I thought was the proper filename, but it's showing as a redlink? Is this a caching issue? Chupchup 23:20, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

nvm, purged cache finally, got it sorted. Chupchup 23:23, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

I am forever in your debt.

Sorry for the headaches I contribute to this database, and thank you for always cleaning up behind me. If you need it, I owe you one. - Jazz

You haven't been contributing headaches. :-) -- Faulkston 02:21, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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