User talk:Faulkston/Archive 2

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Please add messages to my talk page, not this archive page. Otherwise if I (or others) overlook the newly added messages, they may not be responded to for a while, if at all.

Template:Infobox pirate

Someone has been editing it and as I'm not sure about templates for infoboxes, I'm not sure whether what they have done is legit. Fancy taking a look? (I picked you as you were the most recently active admin!) --Whitemonkey 10:31, 22 November 2006 (PST)

I'm not a YPPedia admin.

Fiddler took care of the situation. It looks like someone was trying to get their pirate infobox to show their information and they mistakenly edited the template instead of using the correct parameters. Fiddler locked the infobox template for now. -- Faulkston 17:34, 22 November 2006 (PST)

Regarding Capitalization

I've noticed this with several articles I've edited, such as Payback's rather limited stub, you've changed "Senior Officer" to "Senior officer." Although I currently lack my grammar books due to being home for the weekend, I believe that, in the case of a title, this may not be correct. I was wondering if you have any references that state this as incorrect; I do note that yoweb pages [1] refer to senior officers, when referring to the rank of a specific pirate, as "Senior Officer." Even if grammatical rules don't strongly suggest one capitalization over the other, in a list of ranks and titles does not consistency with in-game YPP seem preferable? --Captain N 22:59, 23 November 2006 (PST)

I can't remember exactly if it was these titles that someone pointed out that I was over-capitalizing. Problem is the YPPedia has articles with capitalization in the form senior officer, so what's consistent in this case? -- Faulkston 23:15, 23 November 2006 (PST)

It's not explicitly said on the YPPedia style talk page whether "Senior Officer Somepirate" or "Senior officer Somepirate" is preferred. What definitely should not be used is:

Somepirate is a Senior Officer in Somecrew

but rather:

Somepirate is a senior officer in Somecrew

-- Faulkston 23:27, 23 November 2006 (PST)

What is an "in-game information"?

Conform to your contribution to my Mortesecca page, I should remove the "interesting non-in-game information, perhaps placing it on a user page". Well, I've just tried to imagine a historical background and a biography of my character. I think it's unfair to propose for deletion those informations. Are they out-of-the-game? Is it out-of-the-game fantasize about pirate life? Then the whole game is out-of-itself. Moreover, I would like to remark that, apart the bare imaginative pirate bio, the historical facts are real, with links to Wikipedia's relative page. Probably a prosaic in-game information ("Somepirate became Battle navigation Ultimate in November 2006") represents from your point of view a "higher standard of quality". If this is the official policy, I beg your pardon, pointing out for deletion Pishkirlin's page as well. -- Cgguiggiani 10:39, 25 November 2006 (EET)

Discussions like these are better held on the talk pages for the pirate articles. Nevertheless, such articles are supposed to be about actions performed and events experienced by your pirate while playing this game. An example would be which blockades they've participated in and things they own (pets, ships, buildings etc).

Considering Mortesecca, the descriptions of necromancy possibly could be considered in-game roleplaying given that we have skellies and apothecaries making potions. However Italy cannot be found on the Sage Ocean (or any other current servers) and thus could not be a place your pirate visited in this game.

Information you've already written about Mortesecca and Pishkirlin doesn't have to be deleted completely. Instead on your user page (User:Cgguiggiani), you are free to write whatever you like within reason e.g. don't write anything offensive.

There are some pirate article guidelines here:

Help:Creating an article:Pirate Articles

Although these guidelines cannot cover every possible situation but they are something to start with. -- Faulkston 09:46, 25 November 2006 (PST)

Ok, I think I got your point of view, but please let me explain why I do not totally agree with you. From what you say it seems to exist a sharp-cut dichotomy between Puzzle Pirate universe and real life. Let's take "Italy" as a case in point. Why the game, referring to Ancoraggio Island says: " is named after the Italian translation of anchorage". If Italy does not exist in the game universe, what this Italian-thing is? Since Italian is the language spoken in Italy, it has to be somewhere and the game can not ignore that. -- Cgguiggiani 21:52, 25 November 2006 (EET)

The island designer themed the island that way, that's why. I think that's the key, since the theme of the game is the Golden Age of Piracy in the Caribbean. Some of the pirates could very well have fled their home country to escape to a far flung sea, taking their various languages with them. Also who's to say that the "Italian" in the Yohoho! Puzzle Pirates universe is not just labelled with the closest analogue in the real universe?

If someone named a palace Italy, that palace could be fought over for independence but it would be the in-game Italy palace, not the real universe Italy. That's a rather contrived scenario, so instead consider the names of some of the islands on the Midnight Ocean - some of them are taken from real Bermuda islands. Thus I don't believe the dichotomy is as sharp as people might believe. Roleplaying blurs the edges somewhat. -- Faulkston 12:57, 25 November 2006 (PST)

YPPedia portrait galleries

Just FYI, we don't do multiple portrait uploads to create galleries for YPPedia articles as there is a game method of doing that. So any future ones that you spot on pirate pages, you can just do a quickie removal of the gallery with a note to that effect instead of fixin' the gallery by uploading them. --Guppymomma 20:40, 5 December 2006 (PST)

To be clear, do you mean the existing pirate infobox way to link to portrait galleries? Or something else? What if a player wishes to have a selection of portraits and not the entire in-game gallery? -- Faulkston 20:48, 5 December 2006 (PST)

The existing pirate infobox links to their info page which has a link to their gallery. If they'd like to link to their gallery from the text of the article that's fine. If they want certain portraits (plural), they can arrange them on their gallery page and link to that or they can go get a personal website. ;) --Guppymomma 21:00, 5 December 2006 (PST)

A development

I'm supposed to poke you to inform you that you've been nominated for adminship. Consider yourself poked! --Ponytailguy 14:01, 10 December 2006 (PST)

Adminship

Welcome to adminship. I've promoted you early so you can have access over the weekend in case you wanted to do any YPPedia stuff. Let me know if you have any questions. --Guppymomma 20:49, 15 December 2006 (PST)

Image issues

I'm struggling to get two images to show up in their correct places - Varekai (Hunter) and Varekai (Sage)'s portrait images don't seem to be showing up, despite my (futile) attempts at getting them to work... any ideas? --Whitemonkey 23:33, 18 December 2006 (PST)

They look fine to me. I believe you might be running into a browser caching issue. Try reloading the page. -- Faulkston 23:35, 18 December 2006 (PST)

Glad to know it's just my cache... I seem to have a few problems like that now and again, have tried reloading the cache, but my computer seems to hate me... will try harder! Thanks for confirming though. Do you fancy deleting all the re-uploads of the portraits that I made then :p --Whitemonkey 23:38, 18 December 2006 (PST)

Familiar template

I think I can accomplish the changes you're trying to make without creating a sub-template by using the {{ifdef}} ^(Usage) template. --Fiddler 20:40, 20 December 2006 (PST)

Agreed, that would do it in a far easier fashion. -- Faulkston 20:42, 20 December 2006 (PST)

I'm close to sorting it out but that | is causing problems. -- Faulkston 21:02, 20 December 2006 (PST)

Got it. I was thinking too complicated, all that was really required was to make {{{winner}}} the default value for {{{winnertext}}}; no ifdef required at all.--Fiddler 21:29, 20 December 2006 (PST)

Thanks for your help! -- Faulkston 21:31, 20 December 2006 (PST)