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User talk:AtteSmythe

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A delicious barnstar.
For your efforts to, and encourage others to, salvage stubs and save articles from deletion, I hereby confer upon you a suitably piratey barnstar.
--Ponytailguy 19:54, 1 June 2006 (PDT)
For your past and continuing efforts to fix the boochy layout of Template:Infobox pirate

--Fiddler 08:32, 27 July 2006 (PDT)



  • Archive 1 : /command page redirects, event gem article names, categorization of commodity spawns
  • Archive 2 : retrieving the island overview image from client cache, progress updating oceans with said images, infobox work, image check
  • Archive 3 : pirate pages, categories, a barnstar!, overzealousness, SD history, expanded search, Littlebuddy, blockade templates, pirate-ocean-cat-inclusion
  • AtteSmythe/Archive 4 : Adminned! House templates, shoppe templates, tech support, table tutorial, trinket templates, pet templates, merging, moving, page issues, infobox crew

A Thank You

Thank you very much for being so polite in your messages =) Not many people are like that and I can name a few..... >.> Anyways, I'll get right on it ^_^ --Cammymylove 18:32, 9 October 2006 (PDT)

Royalty, etc. images

Wow, I have no idea what I did to make the original crew rank icons display like that. Like you, I can mess around with it, but I can't seem to get an exact match. Do the flag rank images display okay in multiple browsers? If so, it's probably not a huge problem. Yaten talk 14:03, 18 October 2006 (PDT)

Ha! Ok, then. What I'll probably do is reupload the crew ones without transparency, so they at least match. It's too bad, though, because the crew icons look really good on all the backgrounds. Maybe I'll just redo them all so that they match. The closest I could come up with was: Subtract info page background color, then reduce opacity to ~66%. It was more white, though, less blue. Anyways, I'll play around a bit more. Truth be told, I think the crew icons don't work quite right on IE anyway. --AtteSmythe 14:06, 18 October 2006 (PDT)
I also uploaded all the island, hearty, and familar icons earlier in the month. You can find them all in the interface image category.--Fiddler 14:10, 18 October 2006 (PDT)
Ah, boo, I missed that when I reuploaded the flag rank icons today. :/ --AtteSmythe 14:14, 18 October 2006 (PDT)

Barnstar Thank You

I just wanted to jot off a note to you to thank you for taking time to recognize my contribution to the wiki in the area of Crew Information pages. I took it upon my self to update all the crew pages that were listed as being out of date and as of this morning they have all been updated. It does my heart good to know that someone noticed my efforts. So thank you for taking the time to thank me. :D --Kgarrett1969 10:31, 20 October 2006 (PDT)

Another Thank You, A Quick Comment

While this will remain in the history forever, whether or not you keep it visible is up to you as, once you see what I refer to, it may not be something you wish to spoil for others.

Thank you for yppRAW. While I may not have a copy of it compiled myself, seeing some of the sprites that I'd never otherwise (hopefully) see such as the Black Ship is very nice. Additionally, I'm sure you've noticed that certain other image files in Y!PP are mislabeled as other file types. Check out some of the vessels. I highly encourage it as there's something there that's rather interesting other than the Black Ship... and something I do hope that I meet someday soon. Thank ye for your time, your effort, and your willingness to get permission to distribute a program from Three Rings that otherwise would violate ToS: it's made me look forward to things upcoming additions even more.

Well, it should be noted that using yppRaw can still be a ToS violation. I needed it in pursuit of another project, before the Yohoho Toolkit was released, and asked pretty much as an afterthought. Except for looking at stuff that hasn't been released yet, it's pretty much been made obsolete. I'm glad you appreciate it, though - thanks for the kind words. --AtteSmythe 23:20, 26 October 2006 (PDT)

Darkviper Page


you've placed a "this page needs to be Wikified" on my page... but you havent said what needs changing, and since I havent changed the page really since it was okayed months ago, I am totally baffled... Darkviper

There's an excess of HTML on the page, specifically the tables. Sorry, I should have left a note on the talk page. I converted most already; there's only one or two tables left, and some miscellaneous other HTML. While things like single line-breaks are pretty unavoidable, pages should be converted to wikicode when convenient. --AtteSmythe 09:09, 1 November 2006 (PST)

Colorize trinket

Thankyou very much! --Piplicus 11:57, 1 November 2006 (PST)


The creator of that page you just deleted (Treegoth13) has had a little vandalism rampage. I warned him on his talk page, but thought you may like to know! Thanks for getting rid of that page nice and quick :D --Whitemonkey 14:50, 1 November 2006 (PST)

Thanks, mate. I'd noticed, but didn't want to duplicate your note when the behavior had already stopped. Thanks for makin' us aware, though! --AtteSmythe 15:01, 1 November 2006 (PST)


>> I just wanted to congratulate you for doing everything exactly right with the complicated infobox on Radostinka. Congrats! --AtteSmythe 13:37, 31 October 2006 (PST)

Thanks. I also added 3 more languages in the Help:Languages - Bulgarian, Russian and Czech. Unfortuantely my skills in last two are not good enugh to add everything like in Bulgarian, but I can find and copy them from wikipedia.

My trinkets

Is there any way to get the alternate text (mouseover stuff) for the actual trinket image to display the trinket's inscription either:

  • without having to do a load of systematic edits, or
  • having to do them?

I had a go myself, but it was not quite a good enough try, so I rolled it back. It seems it doesn't like parameters after an image pipe. Maybe it can be done via the div tags? I tried that, but it didn't work - although it didn't break the page, so I kept those edits intact. --Piplicus 11:44, 2 November 2006 (PST)

Hm, don't know. I think it'll be difficult, because each My_trinkets subtemplate includes its own image, which is where you need the alt tag. I suppose we could have a 36x39 clear image on top of it, with the alt tag... I'll look at what you've done. --AtteSmythe 11:46, 2 November 2006 (PST)

Regarding Pw/oP

Actually, as of around 1:30 AM my time, I finished going through all the list of pirates on all the six still extant Oceans. While I (just now) had the revelation that this will exclude pirates that don't list their oceans, I don't feel safe guessing on those that I don't know the ocean for when adding portraits. Regarding the template mentioned, it was a major help with the first fifty (and is linked on the page), but for the other 94 I've done, it was the running through of each Ocean's list that did it. While some new pirates I likely have yet to do, I consider these 144 enough for one weekend. ;) I may (later in the week) begin a little project that is functionally an extension of the idea of the Infobox Toaster, a PHP script that grabs the relevant pages from YPPedia and the actual pirate pages and helps build basic data -- crew, rank, and so forth -- and builds a stub page out of them with optional history and contribution sections and so forth. I'll probably end up contacting Three Rings before I actually release that (or perhaps even start it), though, as it might not be appreciated for my server to start grabbing pages off of their servers to extract data whenever someone loads a page on mine. We'll see. --Captain N 14:49, 6 November 2006 (PST)

An Updated Sample Crew Page

I recently sumbled across the YPPedia:Sample crew page you created on the wiki and wished I had found it sooner. At any rate I created an updated version of it in my sandbox and thought I would run it by you for updating the official one you created. Mostly I included specific examples for mates to follow, changed a couple of section names to reflect how the majority of crews have their pages formatted and include a couple of additional sections that most crew also include on their pages.

I would love to start out getting your feedback as the creator of the original article before I take it to the general editor community. It is located at User:Kgarrett1969/Sandbox/Sample Crew Page. --Kgarrett1969 12:48, 8 November 2006 (PST)

Interesting! It's actually more true to the idea than my implementation - a true sample page, rather than half-tutorial. Throw a link to it on YPPedia talk:Sample crew page, and let's get some feedback! --AtteSmythe 13:23, 8 November 2006 (PST)
Ah, but I do feel rather strongly that the example code should exactly generate the page at the bottom. --AtteSmythe 13:25, 8 November 2006 (PST)
I thought this as well but also felt that more of an example would be more helpful. I'll give it some more thought. In the mean time do you or anyone else have some suggestions. --Kgarrett1969 05:16, 9 November 2006 (PST)
If we can find the right place to link it, I think we should swap this for the existing sample page and use the existing one for Mediawiki:BlankCrewpage.--Fiddler 13:28, 8 November 2006 (PST)
Ok I came up with a way to comment the tuturial parts so that the entire code can be copied. I also moved the discussion to YPPedia talk:Sample crew page. --Kgarrett1969 08:19, 9 November 2006 (PST)

Arch Stubs

Just wondering why so many arch pages are stubs? What else can really be added to them if they have a list of the islands in the arch and have a map on them? --Whitemonkey 11:31, 11 November 2006 (PST)

I can't remember the last time I looked at those pages. I can think of non-stub material for them, though - Ruby Alliances' histories, for example, would be fantastic there. I'm sure there are other arch-wide movements that can be documented. --AtteSmythe 15:28, 11 November 2006 (PST)

Pirate yoweb templates

So last night I was fooling around a bit and turned my my sandbox into a dummy {Infobox pirate}. I also created Template:Infobox pirate/yoweb/1 through Template:Infobox pirate/yoweb/6, using the code I had developed over at User:Fiddler/Sandbox/yoweb. However, whenever I try to use my sandbox as the template on any pirate page the ocean boxes don't line up as they did in our tests. Instead, the fall one after the other with no overlap, so the lack of a top border becomes apparent. Do you know what I did wrong, because I can't ferret it out?--Fiddler 11:11, 13 November 2006 (PST)

The float is wrong; unfortunately, there is no center float. Since the float doesn't parse properly, it's a regular div, which breaks out of the containing div, rather than floating within it. As a separate div, it enforces its margin-top of 2px, which causes the gap. The fix is to float it right or left, or to remove that div entirely until such time as it's needed for the icons. Messy. --AtteSmythe 11:29, 13 November 2006 (PST)
Oh; my bad. Do you think we shoudl go ahead with this for now or wait until we have the icons stabilized and planned out first?--Fiddler 12:01, 13 November 2006 (PST)
Wouldn't hurt to roll out the part that every page is going to default to without changes, anyway. My only concern at this point is that all pages are going to end up defaulting to right-aligned text with no icons once the icon change rolls out. Acceptable? --AtteSmythe 12:34, 13 November 2006 (PST)
If we go with your shadowy blank icons I think that'll make the change apparent to people when the icons are introduced. Or I could just right-align everything now, but that may look a bit odd.--Fiddler 12:40, 13 November 2006 (PST)
Shadowy icons FTW! --AtteSmythe 13:57, 13 November 2006 (PST)

My Trinket Templates

Ahoy there! So, I took a stab at setting up the my trinkets template page for the Santa Rampage 2006. (Trying to increase my nominal understanding of wiki coding. Much better with HTML.) I was just wondering if you wouldn't mind perusing it and making sure I did everything correctly. I've already used the template on my pirate's page and it seems to work fine but always good to make sure. Template:My_trinkets/Santa_Rampage_2006 Thanks! --Muffynz 01:11, 4 January 2007 (PST)

Trinkets--the dissappearing act

On Monkoygirl the trinkets I put up to show NEVER show. Why don't they show up? Could it be I misspelled something? Anyway please take a look. Thanks. 77monkeys77

New Trinket Images

Ok, my principle image editing software is Photoshop CS so I hope that's good enough for the fine tuned stuff. Where do I start, what do I do, where do I end? (Ambiguous enough?) --Muffynz 20:12, 5 April 2007 (PDT)

To start, you need three images. Instructions for GIMP - if Photoshop CS has something similar, you'll have to find the terminology. Otherwise, GIMP is a free download, and cross-platform. You can substitute whatever colors you want, of course, out of this example. I'd use a red/green, a red/red, and a blue/blue.
Load up the red/green and blue/blue. Copy one, and paste it in a new layer over the other. Change the layer type from Normal to Grain Merge. The nifty thing about grain merge is that every pixel on the top layer that is the exact same color on the bottom layer turns mid-grey (127 127 127, I think). That enables you to create a layer mask. This particular one, since neither of the colors was available, gives you every pixel that is not color-dependent. Technically an unnecessary step, you may find it helps you to align cutouts, or when doing three-color icons (like elephants).
I'm fuzzy on layer masks any more, but you want to select everything that turned mid-grey and turn it into a layer mask that you can apply to a new image.
Take any of your three images. Apply the layer mask to keep the common bits, removing anything that changes by color. Copy the common bits into an appropriately-sized template image. You can use any of the ones already done for spacing - just copy over top the icons, being careful of the centering.
Now, load up the red/green and the red/red. Make the top layer Grain Merge. Flatten the image to one layer. Apply the layer mask to remove the common bits. What you're left with is some miscolored bits and some that's that flat grey color. Everything flat grey is what's changed with the primary color. Select it, and use that selection to create a layer mask. When you have screenshots of the icons of every available primary color, regardless of the secondary color, you can now fill in your grid with all the primaries, and secondaries transparent.
Now, you can either repeat that for the secondary colors, or do what I did: Combine the primary and common masks, invert the selection, and that's your secondary mask! Find screenshots of all the secondary colors, and apply your mask. You'll have lots of tiny images of everything colored by the secondary color, and you can use that to fill out the other half of all the grid images.
For a two-color icon, you can cut your workload down by ignoring the 'common' bits above - since they're common anyways, you can consider them part of one or the other color, and just be done with it, saving a third of your grid aligning work. I included it for completeness.
It's a lot of words, but it's actually a lot easier than it sounds. It might take some playing, but that's the basic procedure. --AtteSmythe 12:18, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

This Month's Featured Article Contest

Ahoy there. There was a recent discussion on the forums about the lack of administrator involvement with the contest I am running right now. While I don't find it necessary to have all the admins vote for the winner of the competition, I feel if 1 or 2 weighed in it might alleviate some of the apprehensions about this manner of voting. If you happen to have time and would like to cast your vote for this month's featured article winner, I would greatly appreciate it. Template_talk:Featured_article Thanks! --Muffynz 09:40, 26 June 2007 (PDT)

Whoop! Sorry, sort of on hiatus and I haven't been logged in while checking the YPPedia. Just wanted to make sure you knew I wasn't ignoring you. --AtteSmythe 11:12, 18 July 2007 (PDT)


My recent change to the wrongtitle template seems to silently discard your use of it on your Userpage, without changing the title. That is, it doesn't seem to work too well for articles not in the main article space. I will think a bit about it. It seems to be the only problem with the change, so it's probably easier to change your page if it can't be fixed. We apologize for the inconvenience --Alfwyn 19:38, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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