User talk:Gunnerfreak/Archive
Contents
- 1 Kraken barrel / harpoon barrel
- 2 Help request
- 3 Blockade Time Gap Reduction
- 4 Generally main space articles should not link to user name space pages
- 5 Signing entries on talk pages
- 6 Headings on talk pages
- 7 show/hide and tables
- 8 Tagging Trophy Images
- 9 Hi! (unhelpful subject line)
- 10 disambig pages
- 11 cleanup
- 12 "currently"
- 13 spectrum/bazinga
- 14 Attractions
- 15 Templates
- 16 Disregard most recent Gunnerfreak edit summary.
- 17 Opal maps
- 18 The memorization section
- 19 Crew renames + infobox images
- 20 Obsolete
Kraken barrel / harpoon barrel
The question is, which name does the game use? --Belthazar451 14:27, 13 August 2014 (PDT)
- Hmm. I'm pretty sure it's Harpoon. I've seen people get it.
- Mee confirmed that it is indeed a harpoon barrel. --Fannon 17:52, 13 August 2014 (PDT)
Great! Glad I had it right. Belth kinda shot my confidence when he questioned it, lol
- I blame Jamesh... --Belthazar451 00:43, 14 August 2014 (PDT)
- lol
- I did say it wrong, I'm sorry. I must not have checked it properly. I'll be more careful next time. :P Jlh0605 12:25, 14 August 2014 (PDT)
- Roger that --Gunnerfreak
- I did say it wrong, I'm sorry. I must not have checked it properly. I'll be more careful next time. :P Jlh0605 12:25, 14 August 2014 (PDT)
Help request
Moderator help requested to linking this to proper page and removing all templates from this page.
Sorry, I'm not sure what you're asking for. --Budclare2 11:00, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how to link to my Trinket Page. There's too much on the profile now. ~Gunnerfreak
Blockade Time Gap Reduction
It started from Nov 6 2015 - just FYI =) This change was made using ocean-side lever pulling, rather than a client release. --Sagacious (talk) 21:13, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Generally main space articles should not link to user name space pages
Not linking to user name space pages from main space articles helps to avoid confusion between non-user name space articles which must conform to certain policies and guidelines and the style guide, and user name space articles where anything which doesn't violate the Terms Of Service is allowed. Also user name space articles for the most part should only be edited by the user in question. Less experienced editors of the YPPedia might fail to notice that clicking a link has sent them to a user name space page and have them wondering why the content no longer follows guidelines. They may even edit a user page which does not belong to them.
Besides, you did mirror your user page's content to a pirate article, so the linked pirate article would show largely the same content as your user page. Granted, the pirate article has had subsequent edits concerning style edits rather than changed content. -- Faulkston 02:18, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Signing entries on talk pages
The correct way to sign a post to a talk page is to use four tildes: ~~~~. This automatically adds your username with a link and the standard-format date. It is not useful to roll your own manual signatures, especially when the date format diverges from what is standard. At least on Wikimedia-operated servers, there are many bots which automatically parse and recognize signatures in the standard format, especially to create archives based on the date of comments. Thanks. Chupchup 22:12, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Headings on talk pages
Please, when starting a new thread on a talk page, especially a newly-created talk page, include a subject heading for the discussion on the second level, i.e. ==New topic==. This helps to separate the discussions from one another and creates a table of contents. You can easily do this by clicking "Add topic" at the top rather than "Edit". Chupchup 20:56, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
- Alright, sorry, mate! :S Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 21:03, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
- No worries. Chupchup 22:35, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
show/hide and tables
The problem is that show/hide is a template, and "|" means a specific thing in templates, so the "|"s in the table are making things go 'splodey.
There are a few different options for hiding the tables. I made the first one collapsible, which keeps it easy to edit but looks a bit awful. For the second one, I copied-and-pasted the table into notepad, used the replace function to replace all "|" with "{{!}}". This looks much better in my opinion, but the next person who tries to edit the table will probably have a heart attack because the syntax looks absolutely insane. The third option would be to cut-and-paste all the tables into a subpage (maybe Brutal Fate/Tables or something), then link to the individual tables from the main page. All things considered, that's probably the best option...but since I'm not the one doing the work, it's not up to me. Enjoy. ;) --Budclare2 22:49, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks! Yeah, making a new page for the charts and all sounds good. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 01:41, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
Tagging Trophy Images
Don't forget to tag new trophy images with {{trophy image}} (Usage) (including ocean and name of a pirate who holds that trophy) --Sagacious (talk) 22:17, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks! Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 23:38, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi! (unhelpful subject line)
Those "|name=" things (like flagid) are called parameters. <3 --Budclare2 20:59, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hmmm, I've been editing a lot lately. To what are you referring? Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 01:11, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- You keep referring to them as templates and subtemplates (subtemplate:Portrait=yes) in your revision summaries. While there is technically a portrait subtemplate, there's no reason to be mentioning it, and flagid and crewid aren't templates or subtemplates at all. "portrait=yes", "flagid", and "crewid" are usually sufficient for revision summaries, and if not, it'd be "portrait parameter", etc.
- Sorry if I sound like a booty. I'm really not trying to. :( --Budclare2 01:43, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- No, it's okay, mate. I appreciate the advice. :) Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:10, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry if I sound like a booty. I'm really not trying to. :( --Budclare2 01:43, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
disambig pages
Disambig pages have to be created manually, but not until there are enough entries to justify one. I would probably make one for four or more links (in theory, anyway; I'm sure sometimes I don't know exactly how many there are, and am maybe too tired to care), but maybe not for three links unless it seemed like there was a good reason to bother with it. To create one, you'd either create a page named "PAGENAME (disambiguation)" or move the page currently at PAGENAME to a different name (and then replace the redirect with the disambig page text), depending on whether or not the original page is more important/popular than the other pages with that name, how much trouble it would be to move the page (because any pages linking to that page would have to be fixed), and maybe other factors. (Alpha is the page I usually copy and paste when creating a new disambig page, to get the formatting right.)
If you just have three pages total and aren't bothering with a disambig page, you can use Template:Two_other_uses, or if you want more flexibility, you can just create the links manually, like on the Mask page. --Budclare2 00:27, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks! Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 01:11, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- I've been around the wiki for nearly a decade, and I never know about the other uses template. /me shakes my head ..... you learn new stuff every day! And Gunnerfreak, just to let you know, I do appreciate the work you're doing. Don't feel discouraged if you make mistakes or if you aren't sure if you're doing the right thing. Mistakes can always be undone, and the YPPedia editors are a helpful bunch, and we're ALWAYS glad for more mates who know their way around! Jlh0605 (t/c) 13:55, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, Jamesh! That means a lot to me! :) I'm rather enjoying wiki-ing here, lol. I learn from example most of the time, but I like to try to figure things out for myself. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 14:04, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- I agree 100% with everything Jamesh said. Thank you for doing great work here! Chupchup 00:11, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, "Blame LJ!" That means a lot coming from you! :) Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 00:58, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- I agree 100% with everything Jamesh said. Thank you for doing great work here! Chupchup 00:11, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, Jamesh! That means a lot to me! :) I'm rather enjoying wiki-ing here, lol. I learn from example most of the time, but I like to try to figure things out for myself. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 14:04, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- I've been around the wiki for nearly a decade, and I never know about the other uses template. /me shakes my head ..... you learn new stuff every day! And Gunnerfreak, just to let you know, I do appreciate the work you're doing. Don't feel discouraged if you make mistakes or if you aren't sure if you're doing the right thing. Mistakes can always be undone, and the YPPedia editors are a helpful bunch, and we're ALWAYS glad for more mates who know their way around! Jlh0605 (t/c) 13:55, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
It occurs to me that I forgot to point you towards the "What links here" link (in the left navbar under Tools). You can use it to see how many pages link to a given page. You would, for instance, not have turned Riot into a disambig page had you known how many pages linked to it. Sorry. :( --Budclare2 08:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, I noticed that issue after Faulkston, poor Faulkston, had been changing several articles. I've been getting into the habit of making sure that new links I make during edits link to the right pages. I'll try to avoid the issue with the disambig page next time. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- With the exception of user pages which will be left for the owners to edit if they so decide, I've finished changing the pages which linked to Riot to now link to the Cerulean flag named Riot. -- Faulkston 03:39, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, mate! Sorry for leaving that to you. I hadn't known about how many there were for this disambig. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 04:47, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
- With the exception of user pages which will be left for the owners to edit if they so decide, I've finished changing the pages which linked to Riot to now link to the Cerulean flag named Riot. -- Faulkston 03:39, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
cleanup
What exactly did you have in mind for Olympian Armada? I mean, I agree that it's a bit of a mess, but I don't see anything else that I'm inclined to bother with. --Budclare2 23:03, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
- Either the members of that flag needs to make new articles to go with the wanted links or..... Idk... Like you said, it's a mess. :/ Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 00:14, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Which wanted links? I already cleaned up all the problem links that I saw. --Budclare2 02:25, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, I saw that after I answered you. Sorry about that. Looks much better now. I think we can remove the cleanup template now but leave a note in the talk page? So that if/when the flag Royals look at the page, they can add the articles themselves. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 10:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- I don't remember removing any real links. They apparently wanted some text in red and didn't know how to do that, so they made the text into links. --Budclare2 22:07, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. Sorry about the mix-up. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 00:41, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- No worries. :) --Budclare2 01:22, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. Sorry about the mix-up. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 00:41, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- I don't remember removing any real links. They apparently wanted some text in red and didn't know how to do that, so they made the text into links. --Budclare2 22:07, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, I saw that after I answered you. Sorry about that. Looks much better now. I think we can remove the cleanup template now but leave a note in the talk page? So that if/when the flag Royals look at the page, they can add the articles themselves. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 10:18, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Which wanted links? I already cleaned up all the problem links that I saw. --Budclare2 02:25, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
"currently"
I am not sure I am much of a fan of using verbiage like "flagname is currently a dormant flag" because it comes off as silly, because the article text may be read at any time in the future and the reader has no idea of what should have been meant by "currently". If you really need to fix something in time, give an absolute date such as "as of June 2012" if you can determine it, or just leave out the dated language altogether. Chupchup 07:19, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hmm... Okay, yeah. I should've also updated the dates on them. Sorry about that. Was following a routine for the updates. Apparently missed a bit in it.. Thanks for the heads-up. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 07:25, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
spectrum/bazinga
Spectrum is the older article, not Bazinga. Also, in the future when marking a page as a duplicate, could you include a link to the other article? It took me a minute or two to track the other page down. --Budclare2 05:19, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
- Alright, sorry about that. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 20:49, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Attractions
The dusted parameter defaults to no if it isn't specified, so there's no point including it unless dusted=yes. --Budclare2 08:11, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
- Well, okay then. Thanks. Good to know! :) Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:12, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
Templates
Please don't use the "flag" and "crew" templates. They don't actually do much of anything. --Budclare2 23:40, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Hmm... Alright, sorry. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 01:23, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- The reason why I was using it was that the template with the ocean thing showed it was for islands in the usage info? Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 01:32, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know what you mean. --Budclare2 03:25, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- For instance, on the Malachite Template page, it says that, if I'm reading it right, it is used for islands on the Malachite Ocean. Not for Crews or Flags on that particular ocean. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:15, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- It's a disambiguation template for adding that ocean to the end of the link. If the crew and flag templates were ever intended to do that, then they aren't finished because they don't actually disambiguate anything, and regardless they would only be used for disambiguations that have "(crew)" or "(flag)" in their names. --Budclare2 13:00, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- Alright, fair enough. Good to know. :) Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 13:04, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- It's a disambiguation template for adding that ocean to the end of the link. If the crew and flag templates were ever intended to do that, then they aren't finished because they don't actually disambiguate anything, and regardless they would only be used for disambiguations that have "(crew)" or "(flag)" in their names. --Budclare2 13:00, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- For instance, on the Malachite Template page, it says that, if I'm reading it right, it is used for islands on the Malachite Ocean. Not for Crews or Flags on that particular ocean. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:15, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
Disregard most recent Gunnerfreak edit summary.
Seems I was the one who forgot to adjust it... Sorry about that, Chupchup.... Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 15:35, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Opal maps
I can't find any way to link to the German templates. They're probably separate databases, and our wiki software is terribly old, and I'm not sure it's even implemented yet in the current version (I stopped looking into it when it became clear it was pointless). The maps would have to be copied and pasted from the German wiki. I did one, and I suppose I might eventually do some more, but my to-do list is awfully long already, and it's not a terribly high priority. --Budclare2 09:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
- As for the building lists, you should just add links to the building lists on the other wikis. --Budclare2 09:22, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, then! Thanks! I'll get on that ASAP. :) Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:15, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
- Just stumbled across this: Maia-Insel (Opal). Several of them are done, anyway, so you can just do the rest the same way. --Budclare2 02:16, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- That article looks like a great one to use for reference when I makeover the foreign oceans' islands! Thanks! Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Just stumbled across this: Maia-Insel (Opal). Several of them are done, anyway, so you can just do the rest the same way. --Budclare2 02:16, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, then! Thanks! I'll get on that ASAP. :) Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:15, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
The memorization section
Yeah, that's a tad...detailed for a pirate page. A shorter version would be better. --Budclare2 02:18, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, I already completed Midnight side a couple months ago, lol. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:22, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
Crew renames + infobox images
If a crew is renamed and has a new image uploaded at the new name (like at Batman), please mark the old image for deletion. Old versions of crew portraits are regularly deleted (usually by Faulkston, I think), but when the crew name is changed, it's harder to find the old image. Just a heads up. --Thunderbird 06:46, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- And as an aside to that, if the crew is renamed, but retains the same portrait image, please flag the old image for being moved, and don't upload an image at the new name. --Thunderbird 07:00, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you for the advice! I'll have to remember that next time! Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:15, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Obsolete
Whenever I wanted to mark a page as obsolete rather than updating it, people got grumpy with me...though it could be argued that my mistake was telling them about it. ;) I'm not sure I care about those two pages personally (certainly not now when I haven't slept), but I thought I should warn you, just on principle.
...actually, the list on naming schemes would be easy enough to update, and probably should be. The governor list isn't practical at all, but I'm not sure obsolete is the best way of dealing with it. Obsolete isn't quite the same thing as no longer being updated. And the update needed template isn't right, either. If there's no third option, we could use the default message box template to create a custom message, or create a new template for pages that we aren't expecting anyone's going to bother updating anymore. Or something. Did I mention I couldn't sleep? Sorry. Brain dead. --Budclare2 18:07, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- So, should I revert that edit[1] and change the ocean names to the current ones? Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:31, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's fine. :) --Budclare2 02:24, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- 4 days late, lol. I already did it. :p Thanks for the permission, though. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 03:12, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- I meant that what you did looked fine. :P --Budclare2 04:48, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- Oh. Right. Thanks. :3 Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 13:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- I meant that what you did looked fine. :P --Budclare2 04:48, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- 4 days late, lol. I already did it. :p Thanks for the permission, though. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 03:12, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's fine. :) --Budclare2 02:24, 22 January 2017 (UTC)