Talk:List of local pirates

COPPA & pretty bullets

Does this page need some COPPA text? --AtteSmythe 16:05, 5 September 2006 (PDT)

Possibly. I'd also suggest creating a few simple icons to replace the bullets might be a more elegant solution... a teeny wee 18+ and 21+ should be all you'd need. --Ponytailguy 16:06, 5 September 2006 (PDT)

Maybe someone more familiar with COPPA can add wording, I pondered something about it but decided I know nothing :) Please do change the bullets to something cooler. --Guppymomma 16:17, 5 September 2006 (PDT)

Heh, personally I want to replace it with a "Debauchery Index" (Zero skull mugs = Under 18, Five skull mugs = "Casual sex? Very yes!"), but that might be over the top. I'll be uploading the age bullet icons momentarily. --Ponytailguy 17:11, 5 September 2006 (PDT)

Had to fix 'em, but I think those'll do. --Ponytailguy 17:28, 5 September 2006 (PDT)

Back to the COPPA thingee, I'm going to suggest we just stick a note that this list is for 14 and older. Or does anyone else have suggestions on this matter? --Guppymomma 20:28, 6 September 2006 (PDT)

That should cover it. To be frank, I just don't expect anybody under the age of 16 to be allowed by their parents to attend a YPP function (especially an explicitly unofficial one), and even then extremely rarely, so excluding the under-14 crowd shouldn't be a huge problem. --Ponytailguy 20:44, 6 September 2006 (PDT)

I thought COPPA applied to those under 13, not 14. --Thunderbird 12:35, 13 April 2007 (PDT)

Formatting

Would like to see some further indenting perhaps?

The state/city difference is too subtle to see easily, if the cities were indented and the pirates further indented/bulleted I imagine it would be clearer. am I being clear enough? --Kraggard

I'm not sure it's possible to get the cities/states formatted much differently without losing the advantages of the headers with their Edit tags. There are odd wikimarkup issues with indenting the bullets more (starting out with ** gives it a double bullet if you don't have a preceeding single *), but maybe someone else can figure out something further. I believe it will get better as more people add themselves to add more spacing. --Guppymomma 18:42, 5 September 2006 (PDT)

Advice, this would work much better in a template-based table... --Sagacious ^(talk) 14:28, 6 September 2006 (PDT)

Feel free to suggest something here. Just remember that adding yourself to this list should be kept as simple as possible to encourage its use. This includes how to use the template and even knowing where to add yourself in the text after hitting edit. --Guppymomma 15:27, 6 September 2006 (PDT)

I was just thinking of a {{Pirate country|Iceland}} style line for a new country, and a {{Pirate region|Reykjavík}} line for adding a new area/region. Then they could use the standard entry line, which just needs a little more code adding to make it sit in a table. Then you can bring in easier to read formatting to the Country and Region lines with less said it acode for people wishing to add their own Country/Region. --Sagacious ^(talk) 16:00, 6 September 2006 (PDT)

I'm still not seeing a real need for more complicated or table formatting. Switching the headers to templates will kill the edit links because they'll point to the template page won't they? Those edit links are really important as it reduces edit conflicts. Anyhow, you should check and see if the people who use this page think it needs those changes and if they do then I'm fine with whatever they want. As it stands the nonwiki users have enjoyed the relative simplicity despite needing a few edits to figure it out (see Caspian's post about it in the thread). It could be a better use of time to figure out how to advertise the page so more folks use it & more social interaction occurs. --Guppymomma 19:35, 6 September 2006 (PDT)

I think this idea would make the page more complex then it needs to be. --Zava 20:46, 6 September 2006 (PDT)

Frappr?

How about mentioning/linking to the frappr map for puzzle pirates?

Edit: What's the proper way to include external links at the bottom of the page? Is there a template for that?

Just tack onto the very end something like == Other Links == and then for link formats you can always take a peek at Help:Linking. I suggest putting a * in front of the link to make the list bulleted. I'll give you a hand if you have troubles with it. --Guppymomma 06:25, 7 September 2006 (PDT)

Worried about this list

Seems a bit like a pervert's playground to me, after all you know what they say about meeting people in person u met on the internet. I wouldn't put my name on this list and would advise other pirates not to. Just an opinion. Wicked4591 15:03, 29 June 2007 (PDT)

It's a voluntary list, feel free to not add yourself & explain your reasoning to others. It's simply a tool for those who do enjoy meeting other pirates. There are any number of forum threads that have done the same thing in the past. Unless for some reason you reveal your real name and/or photo, this list is actually quite harmless. There's a certain faction that throw pirate meetups. See parrrty. --Guppymomma 16:12, 29 June 2007 (PDT)

Even so, it still seems like it could be manipulated to suit the needs of an internet preadator. i.e someone pretending to be someone they're not to meet potential victims. Just worries me a little is all. --Theemperor 17:16, 29 June 2007 (PDT)

A plain list like this for a game where people can have private conversations and possibly the majority of players are around 14 years old? I really doubt that this list should be a huge concern. It's the private conversations, unmonitored by parents, that you really should be concerned about because chatting and email/messages are where most internet predators stalk their prey and convince them of various things. --Guppymomma 17:40, 29 June 2007 (PDT)

Ayyye, I'd say you're right. I guess I've had the 'dont give away personal information over the internet' line drummed into me so many times that it has become a reflex reaction to something like this. --Theemperor 20:27, 29 June 2007 (PDT)

Yeah, I usually prefer to be a bit vague about where I live. I didn't even add me to this list - someone else did... I guess I'm lucky that I don't even live in Melbourne... lol Adrielle =) 06:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Kosovo a country?

I am sorry, but i happened to notice that Kosovo is listed as a separate country? I am aware that only less than 30 nations of the world have recognized it, and it is not allowed to join the UN or the EU. Last time i checked, Kosovo is not a country.

I'm personally of the opinion that it does not really matter. The only thing this article is for is to list where people live. --Thunderbird 21:57, 24 March 2008 (PDT)

I agree with Thunderbird here. If you really want to get picky, there's inconsistencies with the UK section, as it mixes cities and counties. It's only a 'rough location', so regardless of Kosovo being a country or not, it's a valid identifier. --Piplicus 10:02, 25 March 2008 (PDT)

Yes, but there is an UK section, if we are to keep it politically correct, then list Kosovo under Serbia, and not its own country. UK does have mixes of cities and Counties, but it is all under the UK, so if we are to have a Kosovo province, then list it as Northern Ireland is listed or Scotland, all i am saying is keep it neutral and politically correct since the UN has not recognized Kosovo as a country. Please list it under Serbia

--User:Serbianczar 9:23, 27 March 2008 (PDT)

The game and the wiki are both in the United States. The US has recognized Kosovo as an independent state.^[1] Do not change the listing. You are welcome to create your own listing for Serbia if you wish to add yourself. --Guppymomma 08:41, 27 March 2008 (PDT)

This wiki is supposed to be neutral, and not biased, just because the United States has recognized Kosovo as independent, does not mean that the WORLD has. In fact, the UN (United Nations) has NOT recognized Kosovo, thus meaning it cannot join in meetings like every other country. If you dont change it back, http://www.un.org/members/list.shtml last time i checked, the UN represents the world, and thus is supposed to take a neutral stance, and since WIKI's are supposed to be neutral, and not biased, then Kosovo should be listed under Serbia. Wiki's are supposed to be encyclopedias not biased writings, and you just broke the neutrality of a wiki by admitting that kosovo is a country when only 33 out of the 192 countries in the UN have recognized the country. That is 17%, not even a quarter of the countries. -User:Serbianczar 12:24, 27 March 2008 (PDT)

This wiki is hosted in the United States. Enough said. --Piplicus 11:09, 27 March 2008 (PDT)

This is just meant as a place for people to list where they live. If someone wants to list Kosovo as their location, that's valid. Whether one believes that Kosovo is a sovereign nation or that it belongs to Serbia is irrelevant, as it is a real geographical location either way. --Eurydice 11:17, 27 March 2008 (PDT)

The location is not valid, until it is listed under Serbia. And i would like to turn your attention to this:

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Please read number 2, they are supposed to be neutral, and since the UN is neutral, and they haven't recognized it, then that means Kosovo is still part of Serbia. Changing it would rule number two completely irrelevant. --Serbianczar

Kosovo's independence is illegal by U.N. protocol 1244. The listing of Kosovo as independent is a clear violation of international doctrine. If YPPedia wishes to list Kosovo, then why not list Chechnya, Quebec, and Texas as individual territories? The claim you're making about Kosovo being a "geographical location" is irrelevant. The listing of Kosovo as an individual territory is a political statement. If we wish to create a neutral international gaming experience, which is what you claim, then this should be changed. If not, I propose that you provide every separatist movement with their own area on the page. --Ikecto

At the risk of prolonging this debate, the United States hasn't recognized any of your examples as independent countries. Heck, there aren't even any players from Chechnya or Quebec listed in the article. The entry for Kosovo has been there for more than 7 months without causing a diplomatic crisis. More importantly, you're bringing real-life politics into the game, and that never ends well. The OMs have weighed in on the issue. Let it go. --Barrister 12:11, 27 March 2008 (PDT)

Adding new countries...

How does one add in new countries? I have noticed that a lot of Asian countries were not added, such as Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, China, Japan, etc...

Can someone please add Singapore for me? I'm helping a fellow SGer to organise the 2nd Singapore PP players meet up and having a list would make things so much easier to contact them with. Thanks tons!!!

--Karupin 12:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC) Karupin ♥♥♥ Puzzle Pirates!!!

There you go. You can add subheadings under Singapore if you need by using ===Area Name=== on a new line under the Singapore one. --Guppymomma 14:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

error -- Dubuque is NOT a U.S. state

and even if Dubuque does belong in the list for the U.S. (it might be some U.S. possession or territory that I've never heard of), it is in the wrong place in the list alphabetically, so it will need to be moved somewhere... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Franklincain (talk • contribs)

I guess it refers to Dubuque, Iowa and fixed it accordingly. --Alfwyn 17:42, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Permission to add 'India' as a country

I've seen many Indian users playing YPP and i couldn't find India in the list. So could I add India? Well YPP Gatherings in India will be very rare (Or will never happen maybe?) but whats wrong in having 'India' as country in this page? Captainnkid 10:26, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

... You don't need permission to create a section, just do it. Be bold, as they say on wikipedia. Though I'd say don't actually add individual players without their consent. --Belthazar451 11:00, 31 May 2011 (UTC)