User talk:Belthazar451

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Contents 1 Fixing My mistakes 2 Mad Penguin 3 Kakraphoon 4 Crew Articles/Public Statements 5 User pages 6 Opal 7 Disambiguation page creation 8 Patience 9 category sorting 10 Oanacristina 11 Defunct flags 12 Capitalization 13 Ursa 14 Screenshots 15 Gem tables 16 Building images 17 Menu Table Project 7 18 Stepping on your toes... 19 Trophy tables 20 Sorry if this is the wrong place to do this.. 21 Renaming The Spyglass 22 Updating 23 Defunct templates 24 The GOTE's banner 25 An advice 26 Re:An advice 27 Sectional Redirect 28 Barnstar 29 Infoboxes for Rudder Lubbers and Old Spice 30 Parrot Image 31 Ice islands 32 Regarding the competition pages 33 Acounthaking 34 User talk pages 35 Island images 36 Capitalizeation 37 Barbary Shoppe Names 38 Just a little point. 39 Rename images

Fixing My mistakes

thanks a ton for fixing The Colletive Crew page i tried to figure out what i did wrong but it didnt work. Once again thanks a ton=)

Mad Penguin

Very fair, I do not admit I know everything about such things, I don't admit I know heaps, lol. Thankyou for correcting me and expanding my knowledge on the subject.

Kakraphoon

Cheers for sorting all that out, I was going to get back to it and sort it out. It was the winning entry in a competition I ran, I will request better spelling next time. I did only post it in that state due to having someone in the event thread starting to make a fuss regarding it. Once again, thank you! --Fearlessphil 16:13, 26 April 2008 (PDT)

It's no problem. I just get a little bugged by things like bad spelling and grammar. =) --Belthazar451 09:18, 26 April 2008 (PDT)

Crew Articles/Public Statements

Ahoy! Just wanted to let you know that on crew and flag pages, information contained in sections that are direct copies of the crew/flag's public statements found on their yoweb page are to remain as they were found, even if it contains spelling mistakes. The effort to improve the Yppedia is appreciated, but this is one spot where things are left as they were found, whether right or wrong. The exception to this would of course be anything that went against the Terms of Service. Fair winds! -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 11:26, 29 April 2008 (PDT)

Okies, I'll keep that in mind. --Belthazar451 11:31, 29 April 2008 (PDT)

User pages

Another thing I just came across, user pages are not subject to most of the rules regarding articles that are in the main space. An user has the right to do just about anything to the pages within their user space without the interference of any other editor. As such, I reverted the changes you made to User:Chinawina. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 11:36, 29 April 2008 (PDT)

That's true, yes, but I'm getting the distict impression that the account is being used by more than one person. This is suggested to me by the fact that Chinawina's vandalism of Ben is interspersed by constructive edits, also by Chinawina. With that in mind, I had felt that it'd be better if the User:Chinawina page actually had some sort of real content on it. I suppose it was a little presumptuous of me, hey? --Belthazar451 11:40, 29 April 2008 (PDT)

Similarly, if a user wishes to create a page for their pirate in user space does not mean that it needs to be moved to main space. I'm going to leave Robunmas where it is right now, but there are a number of reasons we do not touch any pages in user space, even if it is a page about a pirate. In future please do not touch user pages. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 10:57, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

Ok, stay away from User namespace - aye aye, Cap'n, Sir, Master. Only trying to help. --Belthazar451 17:10, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

Opal

The intent of Opal articles on the English YPPedia is to be a resource for English users who venture over to Opal. Since English users see the word archipelago, please leave it that way across the wiki. Thanks. --Fiddler 09:16, 1 May 2008 (PDT)

Aye, I realised that shortly after I started shuffling things around, and I feel a right moron for not realising that sooner. Maybe I should quit this whole Wiki business before I insert my foot even further into my mouth. =) --Belthazar451 09:18, 1 May 2008 (PDT)

Nah. With the proper sauce even foot is quite delectable. --Fiddler 09:23, 1 May 2008 (PDT)

 :D Jlh0605 09:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation page creation

As you create each disambiguation page you need to ensure that every that links to that page has it's links updated so that it links to the new location for the page that you moved. For example, for the Orion Arch you need to change all of the pages listed here to the new page location. Thanks. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 22:26, 1 May 2008 (PDT)

Bleh, completely forgot about that. I'll get to it. =) --Belthazar451 22:27, 1 May 2008 (PDT)

Be thankful that the lists aren't that long. While creating a disambiguation page may seem like a good idea some days, having to fix a hundred links may one day make you think twice about it. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 22:31, 1 May 2008 (PDT)

That may be so, but sometimes it just needs to be done. --Belthazar451 22:35, 1 May 2008 (PDT)

Patience

Ahoy! Please be patient with other editors. According to the Yppedia:Editors' Code of Conduct, a general guideline would be to wait 15 minutes before you jump in to fix mistakes on the page they are working on. Even leaving them a message on their talk page with suggestions they can use to fix the page themselves is sometimes better. There is nothing more frustrating, especially for a new editor, then getting an edit conflict message on the screen. Fair winds! -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 12:19, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

Aye, I knew you'd be along with that message before too long. =Þ I'd thought that I had waited for fifteen minutes, but evidently I shouldn't be doing edits this late at night. --Belthazar451 12:22, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

category sorting

Ahoy! I've tweaked the category sorting for the map templates you recently updated. Take a look and you'll see that the page should be sorted based on the name after the final colon. Please feel free to add category tags to other map templates. Just be sure to sort them correctly. Thanks! --Barrister 12:34, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

The plan was that they'd be sorted by ocean, but if you think they go better sorted by name, then sure. I'm not certain whether I want to include the island map templates in with the category, though, considering there's about four hundred of them or so. My current thoughts are either adding them in sub-categories (e.g. Category:Midnight Ocean Island Maps et al), or not adding them at all. --Belthazar451 12:44, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

Sorting by ocean makes sense. Perhaps "Category:Midnight Ocean maps" which would include the ocean, the archipelagoes, and the islands. --Barrister 12:47, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

Let me add support for individual ocean categories, with them all collected under "Maps". --Fiddler 12:54, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

Okay, I'll get started on that sometime when I'm more awake then. I'm vaguely wondering, though, whether it's worth leaving the ocean maps themselves out of the sub-categories, and leaving them in the main Maps category as they are now. Or putting them in both. --Belthazar451 13:01, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

And done. Only took me a month and a bit. --Belthazar451 21:56, 6 June 2008 (PDT)

Oanacristina

Unfortunately now i can't edit Blueduck's page info, just the trinkets section. Please hep me :)

Ahoy! I've fixed the performance of your Trinkets list by putting it on a new page called Blueduck/Trinkets and embedding that in your pirate page. If you want to edit your trinkets now, you'll have to edit that separate page. As for editing the rest of your page, make sure you're clicking the Edit button right at the top of the page, not the one next to the Trinkets section header. --Belthazar451 20:30, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

Defunct flags

Ahoy there! Generally, defunct flags do *not* have a (defunct) in their flag page. This is only done if an active flag exists under the same name, for disambiguation purposes. --Thunderbird 07:47, 3 May 2008 (PDT)

Oh, okies. I hadn't realised - it doesn't seem to be covered on the naming policies page, and all I had to go by was what the search function turned up. --Belthazar451 08:32, 3 May 2008 (PDT)

Capitalization

You shouldn't be capitalizing maps in the category names. --Guppymomma 09:02, 3 May 2008 (PDT)

Oh, you are so right. *Facepalms* --Belthazar451 09:03, 3 May 2008 (PDT)

Ursa

I moved the content of the page "Ursa" to "Project 7". "Ursa" is now redirected to "Ursa Archipelago (Hunter)" and "Ursa Archipelago (Hunter)" is been edited with a link to "Project 7". The page "Project 7" will be edited soon again, as the first event is ending and other are being announced. Would you mind if I know removed the proposed deletion as all former requirement have been filled? -- Ascotte 14:42, 8 May, 2008 (GMT)

Aye, I noticed you made those changes - good job. I think it should be fine to remove the deletion template now, though make sure you indicate in the edit summary the basis on which you're removing it, or else an admin may simply replace it. --Belthazar451 06:46, 8 May 2008 (PDT)

oki, ty, will do so Ascotte 1:54, 9 May, 2008 (GMT)

Screenshots

When taking screenshots, try not to have the mouse over top of the building so that we do not see the building type oval. Thanks. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 07:53, 27 May 2008 (PDT)

Sorry, explain that again? I noticed most building screenshots don't have the oval, but I have no idea how to hide it, so I uploaded it anyway, since noone else had yet. That said, not putting the mouse on the building doesn't hide the oval. --Belthazar451 07:55, 27 May 2008 (PDT)

That's true too. The easiest way to get rid of the ovals is hit the alt key twice. When the ovals aren't visible, holding the alt key down will make them all visible. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 07:56, 27 May 2008 (PDT)

That doesn't seem to work either. Not double-hitting, not holding, not alt, ctrl or shift, or any combination of the three. Am I missing something? Does it need to be the full-install version? --Belthazar451 08:07, 27 May 2008 (PDT)

For me, when I first enter a scene (indoors or outdoors) all of the ovals that can be clicked on are shown. As soon as I hit the alt key they all go away. I am on a full-install. I don't see why it would be any different, but I'll give it a try without a full-install too. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 08:12, 27 May 2008 (PDT)

Gem tables

Just FYI, the reason why some of those tables didn't have capital for the header is because some oceans have archipelagos where the capital has not been confirmed. --Guppymomma 20:33, 29 May 2008 (PDT)

I'm pretty sure that the island buys gems is the defining characteristic of being a capital. --Belthazar451 20:35, 29 May 2008 (PDT)

Building images

In your question to me, here, to get rid of the oval on building/duty stations try pressing the Alt key before taking your screenshot. If that doesn't work, try pressing and then releasing it. --Klostro 23:17, 29 May 2008 (PDT)

Hmm... Cedarwings suggested basically the same thing to me above, but it doesn't work for me. Maybe I'll try again once I get my new computer... --Belthazar451 23:20, 29 May 2008 (PDT)

Just curious, do you have the latest version of Java? And if so, is your Puzzle pirates Shortcut pointed to use it? --Klostro 00:38, 30 May 2008 (PDT)

I doubt it, on both counts. Mostly because I'm only using this computer temporarily, so I don't want to bother going through too much effort on it. I'm not even using the full install. --Belthazar451 09:32, 30 May 2008 (PDT)

No dice, I'm afraid. I've got things set up exactly as per the thread, and no amount of hammering or holding on the Alt key seems to make any difference. Maybe I should give up my building-screenshots career. --Belthazar451 00:55, 2 June 2008 (PDT)

Menu Table Project 7

If looked all around, but didn't really found what I needed. How can I create a decent menu for the Project 7 page? I was looking for something like Treasure_Hunters_Guild/Header Thx in advance, --Ascotte 17:10, 30 May 2008 (GMT)

The treasure hunters guild header page just uses a table with images in each cell. The wiki code used un YPPedia is basically exactly the same as the Wikipedia markup language, so looking at the Wikipedia markup help pages can help a lot here. --Belthazar451 09:32, 30 May 2008 (PDT)

Stepping on your toes...

Sorry about that, I wasn't paying attention and stepped on you a bit over Driftwood. Carry on, my apologies.-- Haywoodx^(t/c) 15:33, 6 June 2008 (PDT)

Trophy tables

Whoops, sorry, didn't notice I broke them! I blame it on the screen being too wide with all the redlinks (Nice job on uploading that many already, though!), and it being way too late here. Likewise for not noticing/thinking about the incred-related gap, which I agree, does look a bit silly, but I also still think they should be with the standing ones. The only solution I can think of there atm would be to flip the table so experience comes first, but I'm not sure if that's such a good idea, either. -Birchle 08:39, 12 June 2008 (PDT)

An idea... What about putting the Incred trophies first? Then, to match the broad -> expert -> sublime trophy order and the bronze -> silver -> gold Atlantis trophy order and whatever others, we'd have increds which lead to ultimate which then (theoretically) leads to #1. However, then the big empty spot would be right under the headers, which I could see being considered worse than having it in the middle. Your thoughts? -Birchle 14:31, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

If you are looking to make a fairly large change to the trophy tables, please create a mock-up first before we alter its current appearance. Thanks. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 15:06, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

I think the Increds look better in the middle than they would look at the start. Still, remember that strictly speaking, the Incred trophies aren't standing-related. Your ability to get an Incred trophy is completely independent of your actual standing (for most puzzles, at least). It looks fine as it is, I suppose. --Belthazar451 15:13, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

Sorry if this is the wrong place to do this..

Thanks for the tips, oh and regarding the bank, I was just copying what the name was in game. I guess whoever named it made a spelling mistake. -Opportunist

Renaming The Spyglass

I toyed with the name in my head for a bit, trying to find other examples of how building disambiguations were named. I failed to find an instance which matched this one, and so went with my first instinct. Building does make more sense though, as currently there are no other buildings with that name. :-) --Sagacious ^(talk) 20:37, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

Updating

You making a start on outdated flags then? :P --Sagacious ^(talk) 16:18, 19 June 2008 (PDT)

Aww, you guessed. =D --Belthazar451 16:19, 19 June 2008 (PDT)

Defunct templates

Thanks for updating the defunct templates. I had forgotten about them. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 23:46, 21 June 2008 (PDT)

'Tis nothing. --Belthazar451 03:07, 22 June 2008 (PDT)

The GOTE's banner

Arr, yes I think I can agree with you, the background you have put in makes it easier to read the text more. And I don't feel like you pushed in at all, in fact I thank you for making it more readable for the future members of the guild. --HeadofTGOTE 02:12, 26 June 2008 (PDT)

An advice

Hi.Please tell me how to change my portrait from my pirate's page on yppedia. I have a new portrait on pp and I would also like to put it on yppedia, but i don't manage to change it with the current one that I have. How is this done?

Re:An advice

I followed your instructions and I did it!!Thank you very much!

Sectional Redirect

Ahem - User:Sagacious/Redirect. Don't forget your underscores for spaces in the section name :-) --Sagacious ^(talk) 08:44, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Ye know, call me crazy, but that doesn't seem to work. Loading the page sans redirect and clicking on the link works fine, yes, but the redirect just sends me to the top of the page. --Belthazar451 13:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Well damn. PuzzlePirates skin breaks them. Lame. They work fine under MonoBook! I'll find someone who I can report this bug to. --Sagacious ^(talk) 14:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey, it does work. The MonoBook skin seems to load a whole lot faster, too, more than can be accounted for by not having to load the background images - I suspect there might be bigger issues in the YPP skin than simply not parsing redirects to page sections properly. Mind you, MonoBook ain't half so pretty. =) --Belthazar451 22:01, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

That's partly why I still use MonoBook. That and the header links keep breaking on the PP skin - the hover image breaks and jumps around, dodging my pointer. Annoying much. A cache reload works, but it's a pain. --Sagacious ^(talk) 22:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Ultimate Barnstar
		For your hard work on the YPPedia updating the Viridian Ocean Flag pages.

-- Haywoodx^(t/c) 22:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Aww, thank ye. =) --Belthazar451 22:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Infoboxes for Rudder Lubbers and Old Spice

Please check that flags and crews were actually defunct at the end of Azure before marking them as such in their infoboxes. It's difficult to confirm, but you can turn to resources like Category:Azure_island_monuments to look for indications of flag/crews' existence at the close of Azure. --Featherfin 00:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I was assuming they were simply defunct by default since the ocean isn't there any more, but I'll do it your way, then. =) --Belthazar451 04:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Technically Azure still exists, the Ringers have a version of it saved somewhere. Before the Ice Ocean was created, they used to open Azure for testing new features, only it couldn't handle the weight of Midnight's population logging into it. As a solution, they created Ice and closed Azure forever. Presumably some flags/crews disbanded within the duration of Azure's existence proper, although we have no current examples of these on the YPPedia. The defunct tag should be saved to differentiate between these kinds of flags/crews and those that only ceased to be playable because the alpha and beta periods of testing ended. --Featherfin 15:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Parrot Image

I uploaded a table with all the parrot colors, although poorly named, here: Image:Image-ParrotsbyPiplicusPlusSpringColors.PNG. It may save you some time or work even though the column and row headings aren't very good. --Shogib 10:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

That does save me a bit of time, yes, though there's still plenty of work to be done. You just did the easy part. =) --Belthazar451 13:25, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Ice islands

Yeah, I thought about that. But for an ocean like Ice, I consider colonization to be less about the island being controlled by a flag and more about buildings being on the island. For instance, I think it's useful to know that I can buy rum and cbs and maps at Cold Spring (or ships, for that matter), even if it's not controlled by a flag. But perhaps since that's already conveyed by the individual island articles, calling them 'colonized' is an overstep. --Yaten ^talk 15:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the competition pages

Just a note, Ice is not usually involved in the puzzle competitions. This contest is no exception, there is no competition tab on Ice for this time around. --Thunderbird 05:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Gah, my mistake - I forgot to check. It's only there because it was there on the Reindeer Games page. --Belthazar451 05:40, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Acounthaking

If i use the acount with wich i play the game at editin cant i be hacked by someone?...do i have somekind of protection?...for example if i get hacked i get my stolen items/money back? --Cosmin0x0

User talk pages

Just a note, users are free to remove warnings from their talk pages. If they do, we take it as an acknowledgment that they have read the warning. Since all revisions of a page (including talk pages) are stored on the server, we don't really need to worry about other users hiding warnings that have been given to them. --Thunderbird 13:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC) Also, when marking a page as a candidate for speedy deletion, it is greatly preferred to leave the original content there, so there's something to judge (and so we don't have to take a look at the previous revision to see what the content was). --Thunderbird 13:53, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Island images

FYI, the preferred minimum size for island images is 210x210. That prevents the island template from scaling the image and looking ugly. I know that Polaris Point wasn't that size, but that was because Instantflash uploaded a smaller one back in February. That's before you were really active on the wiki. You should check out User talk:Instantflash to get a feel for how hard it was to clean up after him every time he made a mistake.  :-) --Barrister 04:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough - I was wondering why some of the island images had past updates for extra padding. I'll keep that in mind. --Belthazar451 04:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Capitalizeation

Ahoy there Belthazar451! Just a thought after going over some of your pages.... please do NOT forget to capitalize the "wars" section on flag infoboxes. Such as none to None. Heres one example right here. I've fixed around two or three.... if you could go over some that you made that are not capitalized that would be great. Fair winds! --Addison 03:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not certain capitalisation is overly vital in that sort of situation. Certainly not enough to go back over the thousand or so flag pages especially. --Belthazar451 03:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you'll get 1000 more edits to your name :D. Anyways.... its shown in the little infobox. All I ask is that you capitalize from now on. I might go over some of your pages and cap them. Fair winds! --Addison 01:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

There's not much value in adding 1000 very minor edits to one's name. The task is the sort of thing which isn't really worth editing manually when an automated wikibot (i.e. a script) could perform it. However with the current server performance issues, including a recent problem relating to the YPPedia login process, I'd have to say that anything which uses server time would have to be examined most carefully. In this case I doubt that there's much of a payoff for expending a large amount of effort (human and/or computer). -- Faulkston 03:21, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Or we could just keep lowercase as the standard. Since so many already have it as lowercase. --Guppymomma 03:23, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Barbary Shoppe Names

I'm helping name majority of the shoppes on Barbary, so if I see you're unaware of the origins, and I'm the one who corrects ya, it's probably right.
-Firefly1629

Fair enough - point taken. =) --Belthazar451 07:06, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Just a little point.

I've noticed that you have been watching the wiki and making corrections, in some cases undoing what I have done. I want to tell you that I do appreciate this. I am still somewhat new to the whole wiki thing, and corrections (when valid) are greatly appreciated. Feel free to correct me in the future. (Maybe some day I will have the honor of returning the favor! ... ... Nah, no I won't.) Jlh0605 10:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Aww, 'tis nothing. Feel free to correct me if I make some error. It's good to have the wiki all nice and correct. =) --Belthazar451 10:08, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Precisely how I feel. Jlh0605 12:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Rename images

Alright... I trust you. Do you think I should rename the improperly named images of EAC to Image:Flags-EAC.jpg Image:Flags-EAC1.jpg etc... etc... cause on their page they have more then one portrait. Just go to the page and youll see :). --Addison 21:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

A while ago, I attempted to get the standard naming system modified to handle flag galleries, using EAC as the example. The discussion about it is here. I've given up on trying to get a response... --Belthazar451 22:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I have left messages on several administrator talk pages, also you (which is like an admin in my mind!). I will seek further information on the subject. Thanks for the link! Happy editing! --Addison 22:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)