Template talk:Room table
As you can see from here and User:Sagacious/Sandbox - this template is compact and tasty. My only setback is room images. Ideally, I'd like to re-upload them with caps on each word. This is because then I don't have to add more template entry fields just for the images. Would it be a problem if I re-uploaded the images with caps? There are also a few images where the name doesn't quite match the actual room name - an example is the room 'Lobby' has an image labelled 'gateway'. I'd rename those aswell. --Sagacious (talk) 17:41, 14 July 2006 (PDT)
Hey, good start! Looks like you're seeing the same issue I saw with the thumbnails. The following needs some work to look good with the borders you've chosen, but this is my workaround - looks like you're headed that way anyway, so maybe this'll save you a little time. --AtteSmythe 16:10, 12 July 2006 (PDT)
- You have no idea how long it would have taken me to figure out that would work so well. Ta muchly ;-) --Sagacious (talk) 16:15, 12 July 2006 (PDT)
- Yes, I do! I just went through it with the blockade-at-a-glance templates (c.f. Vilya) - quite frustrating, and I'm glad I could help! --AtteSmythe 16:18, 12 July 2006 (PDT)
Clarity
I'm wondering if it might be useful to note that the Exterior and Lobby are totally seperate from the interior rooms. I just have bad visions of greenies seeing these tables then whining about how they can't paint their lobby. /em shrugs --Ponytailguy 16:25, 12 July 2006 (PDT)
- I'm sure I can craft in indications as to who can paint what. --Sagacious (talk) 16:31, 12 July 2006 (PDT)
One last brainstorm
I'm just about out of ideas regarding this template, but one things still sticks in my head: On pages with more than one template (e.g. Cabin), the templates themselves are of different horizontal sizes. This is because while the images are a standard 180px, the paint info cells are often somewhat larger. I tried earlier to come up with a less verbose description, but it wasn't pleasant. Is there anything to be done with graphics/icons that would let us fit the painting info in a smaller space? Also, while I'm writing, does it make sense to use this table for the shoppe interiors, as well, or does the presence of props make it too cumbersome? --AtteSmythe 15:24, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- Re-writing the way paint units are displayed was on my agenda...I like the way you've done it. I always likes inclusion of 'units' - I'm thinking...
- I thought of using this template for shop interiors aswell, but it will need a few more variables - probably a table redesign in order to accomodate props. I will play with that when this phase of housing pages passes, unless you feel like taking on the task. I suggest using similar layout and code, but probably a new template, such as Template:Shoppe table. --Sagacious (talk) 15:36, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- What about that? --Sagacious (talk) 15:48, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- Looks good to me - gets it across, pretty succinct. We'll be pushing it if any of the descriptors are wider than "walls", but hopefully that'll be rare enough. --AtteSmythe 15:52, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- The longest line is 'Walls: 103 units of paint' which does push it out a bit. Cellpadding++ for all the cells might not just fix that, but make the table look smarter anyway. Alternative is to bump image size to more px - but I think option A would work better. --Sagacious (talk) 15:54, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- Looks good to me - gets it across, pretty succinct. We'll be pushing it if any of the descriptors are wider than "walls", but hopefully that'll be rare enough. --AtteSmythe 15:52, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
- What about that? --Sagacious (talk) 15:48, 17 July 2006 (PDT)
NOEDITSECTION?
What's the rationale for the NOEDITSECTION in this template? Thanks. --Barrister 14:14, 25 December 2006 (PST)
- I remember when developing the template, it had lots of random [Edit] links everywhere in the table. Using NOEDITSECTION cleared up that issue. --Sagacious (talk) 16:13, 25 December 2006 (PST)
- Thanks! --Barrister 17:14, 25 December 2006 (PST)
- Bump for great justice. Has some change been made in the intervening three and a half years? Only I tried removing the NOEDITSECTION and NOTOC because they were causing inconveniencies on the Pirate hall article, and there doesn't seem to be any particular excess of headings or edit links. --Belthazar451 05:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Barrister 17:14, 25 December 2006 (PST)
New parameter
Sooooo! How would someone like to take a stab at adding an optional floorplan parameter that took a floorplan template as the argument? Pretty please? My only concern is how this would appear for larger rooms like those in an estate or manor. --Barrister 00:18, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- Imma stab at it later - when I get back from family :-) --Sagacious (talk) 02:10, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- Whew. It took alot of fiddling but I think I have a good solution. I've made a show/hide bar that will appear when it gets a 'plan#=yes' parameter. Add the plan after the 'room#_plan=' parameter and it works! Success. The only tweak needed is to remove the border around the show/hide bar. If anyone can help me do that - the code is on Template:Floor plan. Seeking approval before I update all the /cell-# template subs to support the new params. An incorrect preview can be found here. --Sagacious (talk) 12:59, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- Overall, that looks nice. Let me run a few experiments with a large floor plan to see what happens. --Barrister 13:25, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- Use the Townhouse if you can - because it's the only large page able to support the new feature right now. Unless you need/want me to make a larger template support it for testing? --Sagacious (talk) 13:29, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- I did the first 9 rooms of the manor using the 9-cell template. They're at User:Barrister/Sandbox3. You can see the floating boxes around the word "Floorplan". Also, it turns out that "floor plan" has a space in it. I discovered this after I started creating some templates.
- Use the Townhouse if you can - because it's the only large page able to support the new feature right now. Unless you need/want me to make a larger template support it for testing? --Sagacious (talk) 13:29, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- Overall, that looks nice. Let me run a few experiments with a large floor plan to see what happens. --Barrister 13:25, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- Whew. It took alot of fiddling but I think I have a good solution. I've made a show/hide bar that will appear when it gets a 'plan#=yes' parameter. Add the plan after the 'room#_plan=' parameter and it works! Success. The only tweak needed is to remove the border around the show/hide bar. If anyone can help me do that - the code is on Template:Floor plan. Seeking approval before I update all the /cell-# template subs to support the new params. An incorrect preview can be found here. --Sagacious (talk) 12:59, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- Fixed the odd positioning problem. I am still finding a fix for the outline boxes. I don't know the right code >.< --Sagacious (talk) 17:15, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- My...head...hurts! Nightmare coding issues thar. I can't seem to form a new row that easily...hrm. But I corrected minor things. So, what would you like to see changed? --Sagacious (talk) 17:52, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- I think what you've got right now is good enough to release. You (or others) can make tweaks as fixes are found. --Barrister 17:55, 26 December 2006 (PST)
- My...head...hurts! Nightmare coding issues thar. I can't seem to form a new row that easily...hrm. But I corrected minor things. So, what would you like to see changed? --Sagacious (talk) 17:52, 26 December 2006 (PST)
Is there a way to not show a floor plan for the exterior room that is included here? It automatically adds it to the category even though there is no place to move around. The image isn't interactive save for clicking on it to enter the house. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:25, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- I suppose. Why, is there a page that has floor plans for everything except the exterior? It's kind of moot otherwise, unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean. --Budclare2 16:23, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- What I mean is that if there's no floor plan, it automatically appends the category, which would be a mistake if only the exterior image is left over after the other scenes' floor plans have been added. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 17:08, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- But if there are no actual pages that are only missing that one floor plan, it's not worth the trouble. --Budclare2 18:24, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- It would still add to the category mistakenly, but ok. Fair enough. Sorry. :/ Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 20:21, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- But if there are no actual pages that are only missing that one floor plan, it's not worth the trouble. --Budclare2 18:24, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- What I mean is that if there's no floor plan, it automatically appends the category, which would be a mistake if only the exterior image is left over after the other scenes' floor plans have been added. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 17:08, 17 April 2017 (UTC)