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{{trophy|name=Jinxed Idol|}}
 
{{trophy|name=Jinxed Idol|}}
  
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== Things we KNOW about it ==
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== Facts ==
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=== Things we KNOW about it ===
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* It is awarded after log in.
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* You can get it at any ocean.
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* It was not awarded to pirates directly after the patch (makes us assume it has to do with a recent activity)
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* It is awarded upon log in.
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* It was not awarded to pirates directly after the patch (makes us assume it has to do with a recent activity).
 
* Unsubbed pirates can get it.
 
* Unsubbed pirates can get it.
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* All the pirates who have it assume that they don't know how they got it.
  
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== Some pirates who are known to have received it ==
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=== Some pirates who are known to have received it ===
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* [http://opal.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Badfish Badfish (Opal)]
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''Please use the international date format yyyy-mm-dd. That other one only works for North America.''
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* [http://cobalt.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=blundarbus Blundarbus (Cobalt)]
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* [http://obsidian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Jasman Jasman (Obsidian)] - 2024-02-29 (for over 4-5 days I have only swordfighted to get up to narrow to start my crew and still didn't level up, I also swapped between PCs)
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* [http://viridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=ji Ji (Viridian)]
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* [http://meridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Tmnagis Tmnagis (Meridian)] - 2023-10-10 (a little after 12:00 AM Game Time/PST). I have not puzzled lately, I just log in occassionally to check for signs of life/activity. Nothing in my inventory went to dust. Log in location was Olive Island docks.
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* [http://ice.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=daviejones Daviejones (Ice)]
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* [http://meridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Kaathy Kaathy (Meridian)] - 2023-05-24
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* [http://ice.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Crowe Crowe (Ice)]
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* [http://meridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Steffo Steffo (Meridian)] - 2022-12-02
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Chimera Chimera (Hunter)] - 3-13-08
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* [http://meridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Callum Callum (Meridian)] - 2022-11-21
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Nuemenor Nuemenor (Midnight)] - 3-19-08
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* [http://emerald.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Khyper Khyper (Emerald)] - 2022-11-04
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* [http://sage.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Twistedtwist Twistedtwist (Sage)]
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* [http://meridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Mamasals Mamasals (Meridian)] - 2021-09-11
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* [http://emerald.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Dunners Dunners (Emerald)] - 2019-06-25 (At 6:25pm local time?)
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* [http://meridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Twilah Twilah (Meridian)] - 2014-02-05
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* [http://yppedia.puzzlepirates.com/Grumbles Grumbles (Viridian)] - 2011-03-14 [20:00:20] (17:00:20 Game Time)
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* [http://sage.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Jomamma Jomamma (Sage)] - 2010-12-15 (12:34 Game Time)
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*Ryahawk - (Cerulean) - 2014-02-13
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*BellBlue - (Ice) - 2010-11-19
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*Yarrmatey- (Cobalt)- 2010-06-7
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Airion Airion (Midnight)] - 2009-11-20
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* [http://crimson.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Lewton Lewton(Crimson)] - 2009-02-07
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* [http://opal.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Beat Beat (Opal)] - 2009-02-07
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* [http://ice.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=daviejones Daviejones (Ice)] - 2008-03-07
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* Blackcannons (Sage) 2009-11-20
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* [http://ice.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Klorel Klorel (Ice)] - 2008-11-25
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* [http://cobalt.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=blundarbus Blundarbus (Cobalt)] - 2008-03-12
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* [http://opal.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Badfish Badfish (Opal)] - 2008-03-12
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* [http://viridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=ji Ji (Viridian)] - 2008-03-13
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Chimira Chimira (Hunter)] - 2008-03-13
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* [http://cobalt.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=whitepointer Whitepointer (Cobalt)] - 2008-03-14
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=fonseca fonseca (Hunter)] - 2008-03-15
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* [http://sage.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Twistedtwist Twistedtwist (Sage)] -2008-03-15
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Floatingjenn Floatingjenn (Midnight)] - 2008-03-16
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=warmapplepie Warmapplepie (Hunter)] - 2008-03-17
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* [http://cobalt.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Imported Imported] (Cobalt) - 2008-03-16
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=topgun Topgun (Midnight)] - 2008-03-17
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=canedias Canedias (Hunter)] - 2008-03-18
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=toemoesh Toemoesh (Hunter)] - 2008-03-18
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* (Quickslvr) (?) - 2008-03-18(19)
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Nuemenor Nuemenor (Midnight)] - 2008-03-19
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* [http://ice.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Crowe Crowe (Ice)] - 2008-03-19
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Misael Misael (Hunter)] - 2008-03-20
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* [http://opal.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Elayne Elayne (Opal)] - 2008-03-21
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* [http://opal.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Platia Platia (Opal)] - 2008-03-??
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* [http://opal.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Owen Owen (Opal)] - 2008-03-??
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* [http://opal.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=tfl tfl (Opal)] - 2008-03-??
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* [http://Hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Cinquains Cinquains (Hunter)] - 2008-03-22
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*(Anon) (?) - 2008-03-24
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* [http://cobalt.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Hizzo Hizzo (Cobalt)] - 2008-03-24
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* Anon (?) (?) - (Misterblonde)
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* [http://ice.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=aubergine Aubergine (Ice)] - 2008-03-25
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* [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1460375#1460375 Anonymous labour alt of Skymike (sage)]  - 2008-03-25
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Spaded Spaded (Midnight)] - 2008-03-28 (but "a few days ago")
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Gengarpirate Gengarpirate (Midnight)] - 2008-03-30
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* [http://sage.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Shuktikajain Shuktikajain (Sage)] - 2008-04-04
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* [http://sage.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Pinkpiglet Pinkpiglet (Sage)] - 2008-04-06
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* [http://sage.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Bootyhuntor Bootyhuntor (Sage)] - 2008-04-09
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=preciosa Preciosa (Hunter)] - 2008-04-14
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* Loola (Cobalt) - 2008-04-16
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* [http://ice.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=armillaria Armillaria (Ice)] - 2008-05-05
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* [http://ice.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=armillaria Armillaria (Opal)] - 2009-04-25 (out of order since this is my second one)
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* [http://cobalt.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=baccus Baccus (Cobalt)] - ?
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Aria Aria (Midnight)] - 2008-05-17
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* [http://viridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Klostro Klostro (Viridian)] - 2008-05-20
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* Winadmin (Midnight) 2008-05-22
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Sandwitch Sandwitch (Midnight)] - 2008-05-27
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Caroleen Caroleen (Midnight)]  2008-05-24
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Alastriona Alastriona (Midnight)] - 2008-06-3
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=pinkpimp Pinkpimp (Hunter)] - 2008-06-06
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* [[Excal]] (Sage) 2008-06-14
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* [http://sage.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Puppet Puppet - Sharktail's alt (Sage)] - 2008-06-14
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* [http://cobalt.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Lissaboo Lissaboo (Cobalt)] - 2008-06-16
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* [http://malachite.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Tyrna Tyrna] (Malachite) 2010-06-09
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* [http://malachite.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Kickhead Kickhead] (Malachite) 2008-06-18
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* [http://malachite.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Smashmartian Smashmartian] (Malachite) 2008-06-18
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* [http://viridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Eyros Eyros (Viridian)] - (Viridian) 2008-06-24
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* [http://viridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=hurly Hurly (Viridian)] - ??
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* Maxtrie (Cobalt) 2008-07-03
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* [http://viridian.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Silverking Silverking (Viridian)] - date unknown
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* [http://sage.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=bge Bge (Sage)] - 2008-10-03
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* Tams (Cobalt) 2008-10-08
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*markoll (hunter) 2008 10 15
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* [http://ice.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Sharktail Sharktail (Ice)] - 2008-11-19
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* Aquatics (Hunter) 2009-01-14
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* Thorim (Midnight) 2009-06-13
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* Yarrmatey (Cobalt) 2009-9-22
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* Slushies (Hunter) 2009-11-10
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=zengo Zengo (Hunter)] - 2009-11-08
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* [http://sage.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Malconi Malconi (Sage)] - 2009-11-29
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* [[Etrigan]] (sage) 2010-1-20
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* [[Tigrelord]] (midinight) date unknown
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* [[Luckylad]] (viridian) date unknown
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* [[JustinRules]] (Midnight) 2010/01/29  '''Exactly 12:00 Login''' (Pirate Time)
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* [[Medea]] (Midnight) 2010/03/04
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*[[Larsa]] (Ice) 2011/08/09 - Exactly 2:00 AM (Game Time), Dusted 3 fish on log in too.
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Rumdum Rumdum (Hunter)] - date unkinown
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* [http://hunter.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Drajl Drajl (Hunter)] - date unkinown
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* [http://crimson.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Alfwyn Alfwyn (Crimson)] - 2010-06-08, [http://ice.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=Alfwyn Alfwyn (Ice)] - 2011-02-18 ~10:21AM
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* [http://midnight.puzzlepirates.com/yoweb/pirate.wm?target=ryujin Ryujin (Midnight)] - 2010-07-15 at 09:40:00 PST
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* Crazyflasher (Sage) 2010/09/21
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''Please note this is not a exhaustive list, and is compiled from the discussion thread. Some information is missing, also dates used here as recieved are speculative based on the dates of the releavant posts, please edit accordingly, remaining in date order.''
  
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== Things we KNOW which certainly do NOT trigger it ==
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== Theories ==
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=== Things which, as standalone events, do NOT trigger it ===
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''The events listed in this section are have been tested to see if they are sole triggers for the trophy, and have been eliminated. They may still be in contention for combinations of events and/or circumstances if the trophy turns out to have multiple triggers.''
  
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* Number of ships you own that have been sunk (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1443435#1443435)
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These broad categories of activities, events and status have been eliminated as potential triggers for the trophy:
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''At least 1 pirate without any own ships sunk has it''
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* Any direct connection to tourneys  [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1444068#1444068 Chimira only went to Atlantis in previous login session]
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* Any direct connection to tourneys (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1444068)
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* Any direct connection to Atlantis [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1444720#1444720 Whitepointer is unsubbed and got one]
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''A pirate just going to Atlantis in last login has it''  
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* We can also conclude it has nothing to do with ownage of ships/stalls and rank - ''unsubbed alt got one''
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* Any connection to Booty division (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1444068)
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* No relationship to foraging (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1447396)
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''It was awarded pre-divy at least to one pirate''
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* No relationship to Gems (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=450#1448396)
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* Any direct connection to Atlantis (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1444720)
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* Anything to do with playing Hearts or Spades [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1456403#1456403 Pirate has never played them]
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''unsubbed alt got one''
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* Anything to do with hearties  [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1458855#1458855 Whitepointer has never had any hearties]
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* We can also conclude it has nothing to do with ownage of ships/stalls and rank
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* Anything to do with crew or flag membership [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1458855#1458855 Whitepointer has no crew]
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''unsubbed alt got one''
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* The jinxed idol was more commonly handed out to pirates who played on the Crimson Ocean, before it was removed.
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These more specific events have also been eliminated:
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* Number of ships you own that have been sunk [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1443435#1443435 Blundarbus has never had any of his own ships sunk]
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* Any connection to (Atlantis) Booty division [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1444068#1444068 It was awarded pre-divvy at least to one pirate]
 
* Sublime/Able stats  
 
* Sublime/Able stats  
 
* Logging off after losing a Tourney match before tourney ended (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1444782)
 
* Logging off after losing a Tourney match before tourney ended (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1444782)
 
* Logging off from game before a tourney you are signed up starts (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1444856)
 
* Logging off from game before a tourney you are signed up starts (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1444856)
 
* Logging off during/after/between rounds of a tourney (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1446268)
 
* Logging off during/after/between rounds of a tourney (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1446268)
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* No relationship to foraging (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1447396)
 
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* No relationship to Gems (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=450#1448396)
 
 
* Losing to a pirate in tourney round #1 who afterwards won tourney: (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1448252)
 
* Losing to a pirate in tourney round #1 who afterwards won tourney: (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=400#1448252)
 
* Winning all battles but no booty to divide (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=450#1448763)
 
* Winning all battles but no booty to divide (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=450#1448763)
 
* re-engaging a lost fight and lose again (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=450#1451017)
 
* re-engaging a lost fight and lose again (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=450#1451017)
 
* re-engaging a lost fight and win it (Just tested)
 
* re-engaging a lost fight and win it (Just tested)
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* getting deleted form hearty list while off-line (Just tested)
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* getting deleted from hearty list while off-line (Just tested)
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* booching on 3 different puzzles in one session. (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=500#1452370)
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* [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1452370#1452370 booching on 3 different puzzles in one session]
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* making stats on 2 puzzles go down in one session. (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=83233&offset=500#1452370)
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* [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1452370#1452370 making stats on 2 puzzles go down in one session]
 
* Being in a PvP that triggered the warning for the black ship (happened to me) --[[User:Lesleywalker|Lesleywalker]] 04:59, 23 March 2008 (PDT)
 
* Being in a PvP that triggered the warning for the black ship (happened to me) --[[User:Lesleywalker|Lesleywalker]] 04:59, 23 March 2008 (PDT)
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* Being on board a vessel that was Black-Shipped (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1455963#1455963)
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* Being on board a vessel that was Black-Shipped [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1455963#1455963 Pirate has never been black-shipped]
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* Anything to do with playing Hearts or Spades (http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1456403#1456403) ''Pirate has never played them''
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* Promotional tie-in, possibly with myspace.com banners and other web-gadgets [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1460824#1460824 Skymike says no]
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* Something to do with wagering - Shuktikajain did not wager anything and got it
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* Logging in at 3:13:13 - Shuktikajain did recieve it did login in at a complete different time
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* Having /dnd turned on
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* trying to falsely delete pirate
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* trying to log in falsely
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* Something to do with the cursed idol trinket. [[Yarrmate]] adds - not sure about this, as I've got the Cursed Idol Trinket, and not the Jinxed Idol trophy, and I think a hearty is the other way round.  [[Sharktail]] adds - neither my Puppet on Sage nor Sharktail on Ice have ever been in an encounter with Barnabas the Pale, or any other Brigand King for that matter.
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*A lot of POE passing through the pirate's hands. [[Lewton9]] adds - most likely not,
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given that I passed very little money.-Only have a sloop.
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=== Theories that have been suggested ===
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* Multiple triggers, with only N out of X triggers required
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* A lot of POE passing through the pirate's hands
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* [http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1463790#1463790 a longer delay than simply "next login session" before it is awarded]
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* Low experience / High efficiency trophy
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* Repeating the same action(s) in 2/3+ sessions (know as the "Deja Vu" theory)/Mique(viridian) adds: i loged in and did EXACTLY the same as my last session (even chat was almost a deja vu) and i foraged and won exactly same type and number of commodities and dont have it.
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* Something to do with idling out, or idling for some amount of time (note the idle/idol pun)
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(Kornflake - The next 5 suggestions don't fit my circumstance, unless there is a long delay before rewarding idol)
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* losing at least 5 matches in a row and loging out.
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* being marooned a set number of times (someone even put this on the trophy page!)
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* Having a Certain Number Of Sinks/Items Degrading
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* Certain # of sinks Without Injury?
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* Being rated close to #1 in the ocean in a puzzle for a long time, but never actually getting #1.
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* Being a pirate who has contributed in-game art, and whose art has been bought by other pirates.
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* Fighting zombies on a darkened island and losing an unknown amount of battles before finally besting them.
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=== Unlikely suggestions ===
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These suggestions would normally be considered unlikely because they reward a player for poor performance or bad behaviour... but on the other hand the name of the trophy has a negative connotation.
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* jinxed the ship by joining.... they went from winning (3 wins) to losing (2 losses)
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* A significant drop in standing
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* Frequent/many disconnects (would encourage players to deliberately disconnect)
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=== Things we HOPE that they are not true ===
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* Trophy may be given out randomly - we really hope that's not it, but it has been awarded to a very diverse range of pirates and many players believe that it is random because no patterns have yet been found and confirmed.
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== Stats comparisons ==
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=== Crafting ===
 +
 
 +
{| border=1 style="border-collapse: collapse"
 +
|-
 +
! Pirate / Ocean
 +
! Distilling
 +
! Alchemy
 +
! Shipwrightery
 +
! Blacksmithing
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Daviejones / Ice
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Apprentice/Distinguished
 +
| Solid/Respected
 +
| Neophyte/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Blundarbus / Cobalt
 +
| Paragon/Grand-Master
 +
| Solid/Grand-Master
 +
| Solid/Grand-Master
 +
| Solid/Legendary
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Badfish / Opal
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
| Solid/Distinguished
 +
| Solid/Respected
 +
| Neophyte/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Chimira / Hunter
 +
| Neophyte/Able
 +
| Solid/Master
 +
| Solid/Master
 +
| Solid/Renowned
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Whitepointer / Cobalt
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
| Neophyte/Distinguished
 +
(ocean-wide Able)
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
| Solid/Respected
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Warmapplepie / Hunter
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Sydax's alt
 +
| ?
 +
| Broad/Respected
 +
| Broad/Respected
 +
| Solid/Legendary
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Excal / Sage
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
| Broad/Able
 +
| Solid/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | (blank to copy for next line)
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
=== Carousing ===
 +
 
 +
{| border=1 style="border-collapse: collapse"
 +
|-
 +
! Pirate / Ocean
 +
! Drinking
 +
! Spades
 +
! Hearts
 +
! Treasure Drop
 +
! Poker
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Daviejones / Ice
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Neophyte/Able
 +
(ocean-wide Distinguished)
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Blundarbus / Cobalt
 +
| Solid/Master (ocean-wide Renowned)
 +
| Broad/Able
 +
| Solid/Able
 +
| Solid/Renowned
 +
| Solid/Renowned
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Badfish / Opal
 +
| Neophyte/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Neophyte/Able
 +
| Neophyte/Able
 +
| Solid/Master
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Chimira / Hunter
 +
| Neophyte/Grand-Master
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Neophyte/Able
 +
| Apprentice/Renowned
 +
| Solid/Grand-Master
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Whitepointer / Cobalt
 +
| Apprentice/Master
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Apprentice/Able
 +
| Novice/Master
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Warmapplepie / Hunter
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Excal / Sage
 +
| Neophyte/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Apprentice/Able
 +
| Weighty/Distinguished
 +
|-
 +
 
 +
! align="left" | Crazyflasher / Sage
 +
| Solid/Able
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
| Revered/Legendary
 +
| Broad/Able
 +
| Solid/Distinguished
 +
|-
 +
!(Blank to copy for next line)
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
=== Combat ===
 +
 
 +
{| border=1 style="border-collapse: collapse"
 +
|-
 +
! Pirate / Ocean
 +
! Swordfighting
 +
! Rumble
 +
! Battle nav
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Daviejones / Ice
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
| Narrow/Respected
 +
| Solid/Respected
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Blundarbus / Cobalt
 +
| Solid/Master
 +
| Solid/Legendary
 +
| Weighty/Master
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Badfish / Opal
 +
| Narrow/Distinguished
 +
| Narrow/Grand-Master
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Chimira / Hunter
 +
| Solid/Master
 +
| Solid/Legendary
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Whitepointer / Cobalt
 +
| Apprentice/Able
 +
| Apprentice/Respected
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Warmapplepie / Hunter
 +
| Novice/Master
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Sydax's alt
 +
| Neophyte/Able (was Respected)
 +
| Novice/Distinguished (was Respected)
 +
| ?
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Excal / Sage
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
| Narrow/Able
 +
| Solid/Distinguished
 +
|-
  
−
== Theories that have been suggested for testing ==
+
! align="left" | (blank to copy for next line)
−
* Something to do with wagering
+
|
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|}
  
−
== Things we HOPE that they are not true ==
+
=== Duty puzzles ===
  
−
* Trophy is given out Randomly
+
{| border=1 style="border-collapse: collapse"
−
* April Fool joke
+
|-
 +
! Pirate / Ocean
 +
! Bilging
 +
! Sailing
 +
! Duty nav
 +
! Gunning
 +
! Carpenting
 +
! Treasure Haul
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Daviejones / Ice
 +
| Solid/Able
 +
| Solid/Able
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Solid/Distinguished
 +
| Solid/Able
 +
| Novice/Distinguished
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Blundarbus / Cobalt
 +
| Expert/Renowned
 +
| Paragon/Grand-Master
 +
| Expert/Grand-Master
 +
| Expert/Master
 +
| Expert/Grand-Master
 +
| Solid/Respected
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Badfish / Opal
 +
| Solid/Master
 +
| Solid/Respected
 +
| Solid/Able
 +
| Broad/Distinguished
 +
| Expert/Grand-Master
 +
| Apprentice/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Chimira / Hunter
 +
| Sublime/Ultimate
 +
| Expert/Legendary
 +
| Weighty/Legendary
 +
| Solid/Respected
 +
| Solid/Renowned
 +
| Solid/Grand-Master
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Whitepointer / Cobalt
 +
| Broad/Master
 +
| Broad/Master
 +
(ocean-wide Respected)
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Apprentice/Able
 +
| Broad/Renowned
 +
(ocean-wide Master)
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Warmapplepie / Hunter
 +
| Solid/Ultimate
 +
| Solid/Master
 +
(ocean-wide Renowned)
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
| Apprentice/Grand-Master
 +
| Narrow/Respected
 +
| Novice/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Sydax's alt
 +
| Broad/Master
 +
| Broad/Master
 +
| ?
 +
| ?
 +
| Narrow/Distinguished
 +
| ?
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | Excal / Sage
 +
| Solid/Distinguished
 +
| Weighty/Able
 +
| Solid/Able
 +
| Solid/Respected
 +
| Weighty/Distinguished
 +
| Broad/Able
 +
|-
 +
! align="left" | (blank to copy for next line)
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|
 +
|}

Latest revision as of 05:03, 29 February 2024

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This article is only for bringing all information obtained about the Jinxed Idol together. This page is kind of a spoiler.

Trophy-Jinxed Idol.png
Jinxed Idol

Facts

Things we KNOW about it

  • You can get it at any ocean.
  • It is awarded upon log in.
  • It was not awarded to pirates directly after the patch (makes us assume it has to do with a recent activity).
  • Unsubbed pirates can get it.
  • All the pirates who have it assume that they don't know how they got it.

Some pirates who are known to have received it

Please use the international date format yyyy-mm-dd. That other one only works for North America.

Please note this is not a exhaustive list, and is compiled from the discussion thread. Some information is missing, also dates used here as recieved are speculative based on the dates of the releavant posts, please edit accordingly, remaining in date order.

Theories

Things which, as standalone events, do NOT trigger it

The events listed in this section are have been tested to see if they are sole triggers for the trophy, and have been eliminated. They may still be in contention for combinations of events and/or circumstances if the trophy turns out to have multiple triggers.

These broad categories of activities, events and status have been eliminated as potential triggers for the trophy:

These more specific events have also been eliminated:

given that I passed very little money.-Only have a sloop.

Theories that have been suggested

  • Multiple triggers, with only N out of X triggers required
  • A lot of POE passing through the pirate's hands
  • a longer delay than simply "next login session" before it is awarded
  • Low experience / High efficiency trophy
  • Repeating the same action(s) in 2/3+ sessions (know as the "Deja Vu" theory)/Mique(viridian) adds: i loged in and did EXACTLY the same as my last session (even chat was almost a deja vu) and i foraged and won exactly same type and number of commodities and dont have it.
  • Something to do with idling out, or idling for some amount of time (note the idle/idol pun)

(Kornflake - The next 5 suggestions don't fit my circumstance, unless there is a long delay before rewarding idol)

  • losing at least 5 matches in a row and loging out.
  • being marooned a set number of times (someone even put this on the trophy page!)
  • Having a Certain Number Of Sinks/Items Degrading
  • Certain # of sinks Without Injury?
  • Being rated close to #1 in the ocean in a puzzle for a long time, but never actually getting #1.
  • Being a pirate who has contributed in-game art, and whose art has been bought by other pirates.
  • Fighting zombies on a darkened island and losing an unknown amount of battles before finally besting them.

Unlikely suggestions

These suggestions would normally be considered unlikely because they reward a player for poor performance or bad behaviour... but on the other hand the name of the trophy has a negative connotation.

  • jinxed the ship by joining.... they went from winning (3 wins) to losing (2 losses)
  • A significant drop in standing
  • Frequent/many disconnects (would encourage players to deliberately disconnect)

Things we HOPE that they are not true

  • Trophy may be given out randomly - we really hope that's not it, but it has been awarded to a very diverse range of pirates and many players believe that it is random because no patterns have yet been found and confirmed.

Stats comparisons

Crafting

Pirate / Ocean Distilling Alchemy Shipwrightery Blacksmithing
Daviejones / Ice Novice/Able Apprentice/Distinguished Solid/Respected Neophyte/Able
Blundarbus / Cobalt Paragon/Grand-Master Solid/Grand-Master Solid/Grand-Master Solid/Legendary
Badfish / Opal Narrow/Able Solid/Distinguished Solid/Respected Neophyte/Able
Chimira / Hunter Neophyte/Able Solid/Master Solid/Master Solid/Renowned
Whitepointer / Cobalt Narrow/Able Neophyte/Distinguished

(ocean-wide Able)

Narrow/Able Solid/Respected
Warmapplepie / Hunter Novice/Able Novice/Able Novice/Able Novice/Able
Sydax's alt ? Broad/Respected Broad/Respected Solid/Legendary
Excal / Sage Narrow/Able Narrow/Able Broad/Able Solid/Able
(blank to copy for next line)

Carousing

Pirate / Ocean Drinking Spades Hearts Treasure Drop Poker
Daviejones / Ice Novice/Able Novice/Able Novice/Able Neophyte/Able

(ocean-wide Distinguished)

Novice/Able
Blundarbus / Cobalt Solid/Master (ocean-wide Renowned) Broad/Able Solid/Able Solid/Renowned Solid/Renowned
Badfish / Opal Neophyte/Able Novice/Able Neophyte/Able Neophyte/Able Solid/Master
Chimira / Hunter Neophyte/Grand-Master Novice/Able Neophyte/Able Apprentice/Renowned Solid/Grand-Master
Whitepointer / Cobalt Apprentice/Master Novice/Able Apprentice/Able Novice/Master Novice/Able
Warmapplepie / Hunter Novice/Able Novice/Able Novice/Able Novice/Able Novice/Able
Excal / Sage Neophyte/Able Novice/Able Novice/Able Apprentice/Able Weighty/Distinguished
Crazyflasher / Sage Solid/Able Narrow/Able Revered/Legendary Broad/Able Solid/Distinguished
(Blank to copy for next line)

Combat

Pirate / Ocean Swordfighting Rumble Battle nav
Daviejones / Ice Narrow/Able Narrow/Respected Solid/Respected
Blundarbus / Cobalt Solid/Master Solid/Legendary Weighty/Master
Badfish / Opal Narrow/Distinguished Narrow/Grand-Master Narrow/Able
Chimira / Hunter Solid/Master Solid/Legendary Narrow/Able
Whitepointer / Cobalt Apprentice/Able Apprentice/Respected Novice/Able
Warmapplepie / Hunter Novice/Master Novice/Able Novice/Able
Sydax's alt Neophyte/Able (was Respected) Novice/Distinguished (was Respected) ?
Excal / Sage Narrow/Able Narrow/Able Solid/Distinguished
(blank to copy for next line)

Duty puzzles

Pirate / Ocean Bilging Sailing Duty nav Gunning Carpenting Treasure Haul
Daviejones / Ice Solid/Able Solid/Able Novice/Able Solid/Distinguished Solid/Able Novice/Distinguished
Blundarbus / Cobalt Expert/Renowned Paragon/Grand-Master Expert/Grand-Master Expert/Master Expert/Grand-Master Solid/Respected
Badfish / Opal Solid/Master Solid/Respected Solid/Able Broad/Distinguished Expert/Grand-Master Apprentice/Able
Chimira / Hunter Sublime/Ultimate Expert/Legendary Weighty/Legendary Solid/Respected Solid/Renowned Solid/Grand-Master
Whitepointer / Cobalt Broad/Master Broad/Master

(ocean-wide Respected)

Novice/Able Apprentice/Able Broad/Renowned

(ocean-wide Master)

Novice/Able
Warmapplepie / Hunter Solid/Ultimate Solid/Master

(ocean-wide Renowned)

Novice/Able Apprentice/Grand-Master Narrow/Respected Novice/Able
Sydax's alt Broad/Master Broad/Master ? ? Narrow/Distinguished ?
Excal / Sage Solid/Distinguished Weighty/Able Solid/Able Solid/Respected Weighty/Distinguished Broad/Able
(blank to copy for next line)
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