User talk:Thefirstdude/Archive/3

Zook

I rolled back the changes you made to Zook. Where do you see a policy prohibiting lists of trinkets in pirate articles?--Fiddler 12:29, 22 March 2007 (PDT)

I'm sorry... see your talk page. -- Thefirstdude ^(t/c) 12:30, 22 March 2007 (PDT)

Icecool

Ahoy! If you read the Editors Code of Conduct you will see that it recommends that you wait at least 15 minutes before you jump in on what someone is editing, especially if they are new to the Yppedia. Those tags, while necessary, can be scary to people that are new to the Yppedia. I've even been known to try and figure out what ocean they are on so I can work with them (like I did with Odeliya) to get their pages to meet our higher standard of quality.

Capitalization

I'm actually quite surprised that OOO and YPP would not want to capitalize ranks and titles as in the English language they are seen as proper nouns and therefore require capitalization. This is accepted world wide when it comes to proper nouns and any published works (like some of mine). As I am sure you understand being a published writer, I tend to be somewhat critical of my own writing, and as such, watch what changes get made to it. I will no longer update my yppedia page so as not to inconvenience your Grammar Corrector. I appologize for any inconvenience

ECollins

Captialization

Ranks are not proper nouns. -- Thefirstdude (t/c) 08:58, 24 March 2007 (PDT)

I shall than change it to read (date) Senior Officer Erin crew / flag - to ensure it meets grammar standards of the precise definition of "Proper Noun" - thank you for your correction.

Tone

Hello there! While we're glad to see you taking such an active part in the YPPedia, the administrators would like to ask that you please consider the tone you use when leaving messages on talk pages. There have been a few instances where you speak with authority that you simply don't possess, or when you "instruct" people on wiki protocols they're already familiar with, and I'm sure you can see how this can become abrasive. In particular, we'd really rather you left discipline (like threatening to block users) to the administrators; feel free to repair vandalism or correct similar problems, but if you've given a warning that we find too harsh or too lenient, this leaves us in a very awkward position when we have to either undermine you (and as a general rule of thumb, we like to avoid undermining community members), or block the user for an offence that you'd led them to believe they wouldn't be blocked for. I'm sure you can see how this creates problems for everyone.

To repeat myself, we do value your contributions! You have a lot of positive content to add to the YPPedia, and your record is certainly one any YPPedian could be proud of. But please leave the policing to the police, and please be gentler when you're correcting, teaching, or even just discussing matters with other users. The YPPedia (or any wiki, for that matter) depends on courtesy, and we hope you understand the importance we place on politeness. Fair winds! --Ponytailguy 16:22, 28 March 2007 (PDT)

I'll start by saying that I am aware that my tone has been a bit abrasive, and have made a conscious effort to change this (as you may have seen with the several times I went back and edited my comments to make them sound a bit more diplomatic, and the occasions on which I have left notes saying I really don't mean to sound as harsh as I do). As for giving warnings, I was under the impression that all users were allowed to engage in disciplinary issues; I don't mean to twist her words, but Guppymomma even left me a note here saying I should feel free to warn users after they have been vandalistic (I like that word now ;)).

As for leaving users instructions on wiki protocols they're already familiar with, I can't honestly say I know what specifically you are speaking of here - but this sort of speaks for itself.

Finally, I'm not generally known as a lenient person - I am honestly curious as to where I have given warnings that were too lenient.

And, really finally, I'm sorry to have caused trouble, and thanks for taking the time to leave this message. -- Thefirstdude ^(t/c) 17:42, 28 March 2007 (PDT)

I will amend my words a tad then. Please feel free to use the warning messages, but use them judiciously. In fact, the advice may be good to apply to editing in general. For instance, sometimes a wee bit of research might save you the mistake of accusing someone so kind as to organize a large real-life pirate gathering of being a scammer. If this means you just put a note about a page you want to look into in your user space somewhere so you can think it over for a bit before jumping in, then that may be the best way to go. There are many things that don't need an immediate response, where it is good to mull it over before making comments. Especially if you know you can be abrasive in tone. Also, please do not abuse the "minor edit" button. It is meant to be used when you do a minor correction like link fixing or a quick spelling fix. It's not what you use when leaving comments on user talk pages or when you revert edits (admin use of the rollback link automatically marks it as minor, but for nonadmins it's best to leave a note about why the revert was done & leave it as a normal edit) or do larger edits or when you participate in policy discussions. --Guppymomma 19:15, 28 March 2007 (PDT)

Thank you. Points taken. Have a good day. -- Thefirstdude ^(t/c) 14:51, 4 April 2007 (PDT)