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I gave the editor some time to post an RFA or make further edits towards doing so - but it appears they have not done so. I did however, just post a carefully worded explanation as to why I reverted his edit, and some other information about RFAs/YPPedia. While RFAs are pretty dark waters, I felt this edit to the RFA page was more a test edit than an actual application. If the user wishes to press ahead with another attempt, the door is open for them. I'm open to other comments on my handling of this however :-) --Sagacious (talk) 18:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I read your commentary to him about his assumed application and agree with how you handled it. I was writing you when you were writing him so I was unaware you were going to break it down for him. Nice job.-- Haywoodx(t/c) 18:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Northern Lights

Is there a not defunct Viridian flag named Northern Lights that you moved the other one to make way for? If not, moving it to (defunct Viridian flag) was just a waste of time. We don't generally mess with doing that unless there's a new and improved version that needs the page. That is, why bother differentiating between defunct and not defunct unless you have both? Also, if you're going to do that, you should also take the time to fix all of the pages that point to said page. --Fannon 03:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

You got me, bang. My head was on crooked and for some reason believed there to be an active flag, different from the defunct one on Viridian. Although I cannot confirm or deny it, I don't beleive there is one. So now I should move the page back or update all the pages that link to the prior page move?-- Haywoodx(t/c) 04:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it'll save you a few years of your life to just move them back. =p Unless you're sadistic and really really want to go through and change all of those. I can also hit revert on the disambig page for you to save more time. --Fannon 04:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I've logged onto Viridian, and no flag by the name Northern Lights (or any capitalization thereof) exists. --Fannon 04:14, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
It appears that before we could manage to fix my blunder, Faulkston is attacking the "linky list" you so kindly pointed me to.-- Haywoodx(t/c) 04:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Self explanatory cookie cutter templates.


I'm putting this here, rather than on your talk page, since I don't want it to be a public thingie where it could get blown out of proportion.

I found your use of a templated response on not only to be unnecessary and a misuse of the template, but it came across in a really condescending tone. That template is intended to be used when someone blanks a pirate page because "pirate no longer exists" or whatnot, as a use on said person's talk page. The template is called "butchery" for a reason.

Candy clearly showed some understanding of wiki procedures by simply putting a deletion proposal on the page (a page, I'll add, that she took the time to reformat into a much less ugly version). In her note on the talk page, she even pointed out that because of the length, maybe it should be kept.

Rather than dismiss her with a template, it's much more effective to use your own words and say, "Yeah, you're right on that the history and content of the page means it should be kept".

I try to avoid use of the standardized templates as much as humanly possibly, because they just come across as really cold to me sometimes. And in the wrong context, they're just downright condescending. More than that, I certainly avoid using them against someone who's making a ton of quality edits to the wiki, for fear of discouraging them. I try really hard to tell people what a great job they're doing (assuming they are, because we all know some of them just aren't) to balance off whatever advice I'm giving, and unfortunately, most of those templates just don't do that.

Anyway, I hope this all made sense. And I hope I'm not offending you by saying any of this, and if I am, at least you can appreciate that I said it here, where it's between the two of us, rather than on your talk page where anyone and their brother could read it.


Queen of Crimson Tide on Midnight Shuranthae's Captain Shuranthae says, "Yeah, that's what I'd expect from a Wynd. Our bloodthirstyness is only matched by our laziness and lack of enthusiasm."

If a cookie cutter template is "condescending", perhaps you should discuss that on the templates talk page. The Article Nightshifter was proposed deletion and the {{Butchery Pirate}} (Usage) template is pretty self explanatory why we dont just blank or delete pages, especially with as much content. I cannot help its called "Butchery". Furthmore, I cannot condone making the same cookie cutter message from multiple template titles just so we're not using one thats titled {and unseen for the most part) something that doesnt exactly fit the purpose. Lastly, I have nothing to hide so you can direct all of your issues to my talk page. Cheers, -- Haywoodx(t/c) 04:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Disambig Pages

Ahoy there! Just a note, please DO NOT make disambig pages for only 2 results. The minimum is 3. Heres an example you made that was made improperly. Masquerade Fair Winds! --Addison 01:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Please ignore this message. The disambig pages you make are fine. --Guppymomma 02:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


Just a question... how is my RfA filled improperly? I don't see anything wrong with it... just leave me a message on my talk page. --Addison 04:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Wait... is it the horizontal line thing? I fixed that... --Addison 04:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
This has nothing to do with the horizontal line. Maybe you need to go back to the beginning and read the instructions again. Specifically pay attention to the section about Nomination instructions and think about whether you have followed all four instructions that are listed. Maybe you can find the answer to your own question above. -- Cedarwings (talk) 14:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I see, well... like they say.... third time's the charm! --Addison 22:26, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Cobalt blockade history

I'm a bit at loss why you capitalized Super Awesomeness in the blockade history. Was the flag written that way before, or what is the reason ? --Alfwyn 23:29, 16 December 2008 (UTC) (puzzled)

Ok, got it now, the flag was written that way till around 12 November, 2007, just saw it in the move log, sorry for bothering you. --Alfwyn 23:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
It is a good point, should we revert the ones I changed as its chronologicaly accurate?-- Haywoodx(t/c) 23:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I think the right thing would be to use the capitalized version for blockades before the rename, and the current one for blockades after the rename. But I'm not sure if the rename of the YPPedia page was made at the same time as the flag was renamed. --Alfwyn 13:45, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

User goals

I've edited my pirate page so that the in-game and the YPPedia goals are separate, I don't know if it's entirely correct but I am pretty sure it is :) --Addihockey (talk/contribs) 14:48, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Ocean categories on user pages

Not sure if you noticed before you removed it, but the ocean categories shouldn't be showing up on user pages any more. A change was made to the oceans template back in October. Don't worry about reverting the changes you just made. Doesn't really matter either way now. -- Cedarwings (talk) 07:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

OK thanks. I wasnt aware of that change but I'm glad you pointed it out.-- Haywoodx(t/c) 16:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


I'm sorry that the whole thing about the Hen.jpg takes on such proportions. Opposing the deletion wasn't meant in any way personally, my initial motivation to step in was just to prevent that a users first page gets broken in case an admin should forget to check the links before deleting the image. I'm well aware that the image was misnamed, I just think it wasn't a candidate for speedy deletion. Reuploading it as Pirates-Hendrix.jpg wasn't perhaps the best choice, but it would have left the user the choice to reupload it in the correct size (assuming he still has the framed portrait) or replace it with another portrait if and when he creates a page for his pirate. --Alfwyn 14:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't personal. I simply approached it from a consistency standpoint. I merely marked it for deletion. I also trusted that once it was deleted, the broken link on the users page would be be addressed by the deleting admin. I also had the issue on my watchlist in case the user wasn't notified that his image was deleted. I thnk the big issue for me was no matter how much I tried explaining it, you couldnt grasp that it wasn't any one particular thing wrong with the image but the culmination of all variables that made it a candidate for deletion; regardless of its inability to re-uplaod. Keep in mind, I only tagged it for categorization purposes. -- Haywoodx(t/c) 17:09, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Speedy deletion was the wrong tag to use for that image, as it only applies to images which are duplicates. That image was a special case, since there was no full-size portrait available. There wasn't any precedent for that situation. You may notice that the image was deleted only after it had been uploaded under a new name (which was 3 days after you changed the tag back to speedy deletion). --Thunderbird 20:45, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Hidden pets and trinkets

From YPPedia:Policies_and_guidelines: Lists of trinkets and pets longer than twelve items total should be hidden inside a show/hide box. Ex: Vova, Stevensam.

There are 16 pets and trinkets listed in that article, therefore they should be hidden. --Fiddler 19:22, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok I clearly misunderstood. I'd prefer not to have a show/hide box as my pirate text supports the balance needed for longer than normal lists. I will accommodate to be in compliance with policy.-- Haywoodx(t/c) 19:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I definately get the impression of "each" as well. Also, unlike a lot of other pages, Haywood's infobox pet and trinket lists aren't longer than his page text. Mind you, there's no reason you can't leave the show/hide boxes in the right-hand column. --Belthazar451 22:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Nope, total - as explained here --Fiddler 23:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Its quite alright. I can't advocate consistency and then turn around and expect exceptions for my own personal reasons. I just happen to find that a selective list as as a sidebar is more productive and fashionable than a less than appealing banner. If I had time to propose a more aesthetic solution than a tan bar across the page with seemingly small letters screaming "look here".......-- Haywoodx(t/c) 04:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

That's easy - use the showhide template's bgcolor parameter and make it a bar of another colour. =D --Belthazar451 05:56, 21 January 2009 (UTC)