Talk:Thespian
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I created the page because someone told me on the game that they couldn't remember how to find links to my search plug-ins, and they searched the YPPedia for 'thespian' in the hopes I was mentioned in the article (and yeah, they could have looked up my user info, but they are new to wikis). I don't care if it's deleted or not, but since people are looking/have looked for it, I figured it was easiest to just throw the info up.
Is there a better way rather than just sticking my name in? I put my name in the subcategory about this on the Search page, so that might work ok, as well?
- Make an article in the main namespace. The Shop Tool is one such page. I could've sworn there are others, but I can't think of them off the top of my head. I've added a third-party tools category that will help. Anyhow, just copy the text about the plugin over to its own page (YPPedia Mozilla Search Plugin? or something like that) and leave your name in as the creator, but don't link to it/create a page on yourself unless you fit within the YPPedia:Policies_and_guidelines for individual pirates. That way they'll still see the article if they only search for thespian (search checks the content of articles). --Guppymomma 07:53, 10 December 2005 (PST)
- "That way they'll still see the article if they only search for thespian (search checks the content of articles)." When I search for 'Belgarion', though, I don't see the Shoppe Tools, or a link to it, though, though, just his page. --Thespian 07:46, 12 December 2005 (PST)
- Belgarion qualifies for an individual pirate article under the current YPPedia policies. His page contains a link to the Shoppe Tool. However, if his individual pirate article did not exist and a pirate did a search on Belgarion, they would find the Shoppe Tool page as it has his name on it. This second example is what you qualify for. If you feel that the policy should be changed, feel free to present your point to the community on the talk page of YPPedia:Policies and guidelines for discussion. --Guppymomma 18:13, 12 December 2005 (PST)
- It's not that I care for a policy change, however, when I search for 'Thespian', using search (not 'go'), this is still the only page that shows up in the results page, despite what you're telling me. Did you try it? --Thespian 17:16, 15 December 2005 (PST)
- Belgarion qualifies for an individual pirate article under the current YPPedia policies. His page contains a link to the Shoppe Tool. However, if his individual pirate article did not exist and a pirate did a search on Belgarion, they would find the Shoppe Tool page as it has his name on it. This second example is what you qualify for. If you feel that the policy should be changed, feel free to present your point to the community on the talk page of YPPedia:Policies and guidelines for discussion. --Guppymomma 18:13, 12 December 2005 (PST)
- "That way they'll still see the article if they only search for thespian (search checks the content of articles)." When I search for 'Belgarion', though, I don't see the Shoppe Tools, or a link to it, though, though, just his page. --Thespian 07:46, 12 December 2005 (PST)
- Make sure you hit "Search" and not "Go." The former will give you a list of all pages that mention the term you enter, the latter will take you directly to an article withthe same title as the term you entered.--Fiddler 17:25, 12 December 2005 (PST)
- Fiddler: I did. it still takes me here: though I put my name in the search page, the only thing that shows when you search for my name is this page. --Thespian 17:14, 15 December 2005 (PST)
- Make sure you hit "Search" and not "Go." The former will give you a list of all pages that mention the term you enter, the latter will take you directly to an article withthe same title as the term you entered.--Fiddler 17:25, 12 December 2005 (PST)
- That is because no other articles on the YPPedia mention the word "Thespian." My previous comment was about searching for Belgarion in the way Guppymomma pointed out above. If you create an article on your search engine plugin and mention your name, then that article would also show up when searching for "Thespian."--Fiddler 20:26, 15 December 2005 (PST)
- Okay, I've created an article for the search plug-ins that mentions your name. Searching for "Thespian" will now turn up that article. If there are no further objectinos, this article should be deleted. --Fiddler 20:36, 15 December 2005 (PST)
- Thanks, Fiddler. However, I *had* put my name in YPPedia:Searching. When you search for 'thespian', that page isn't showing up, even now. That's where my confusion is coming from, do you see? I had, as far as I could tell, done what you were telling me to do, and the results were not showing up, which is why this was confusing. So, there *IS* another article, on YPPedia, that mentions my name (and indeed, I think it's likely the best place for people to find the info); but despite that, the search wasn't showing it as a result. As a consequence, I was getting frustrated, because you two kept telling me to put the info elsewhere, and I *did*, and it still wasn't showing. Can you explain to me why, when one searches for 'thespian', the YPPedia:Searching page doesn't show in the results, even now? It makes no sense to me. --Thespian 14:11, 17 December 2005 (PST)
- Just zap it, otherwise I don't think Thespian is going to understand what we mean. It can always be undeleted if need be. --Guppymomma 20:43, 15 December 2005 (PST)
There are several different areas (namespaces) in this wiki. By default, only the main area is searched. Pages in the "YPPedia:" namespace are not in the main area. So, that's why a search on "Thespian" doesn't find YPPedia:Searching. --Barrister 18:06, 17 December 2005 (PST)
- Thanks a lot, Barrister. It was driving me nuts - being told the mention wasn't anywhere else, when I knew I had added it elsewhere. I'd suggest, Fiddler, Guppymomma, that you reassess places where you have told this to people and ask where they added it instead of assuming that they weren't following instructions (which I believed I was - on Wikipedia searches cover all info on the site). I obviously should have told you where I had added it, of course, not just that I added it, you might have noticed earlier. --Thespian 11:00, 18 December 2005 (PST)
- I actually mentioned that in my very first comment above replying to your question where I said "Make an article in the main namespace." (as I had noticed you'd added it as a YPPedia: page) and gave an example of one such article in the main namespace (not a YPPedia: article), the Shoppe Tool and a "Search" on Belgarion which besides listing his pirate article also contains the shoppe tool article. In fact, you stated that you did not see the Shoppe Tool listed on the search results page for Belgarion. Because you did not ask any specific questions about my comment, there was no way for any of us to know what you were looking at/seeing/expecting and you did not indicate that you saw what we were talking about with the Belgarion example. The best way to show you was for Fiddler to create that main namespace article and at least temporarily delete this article so you could see it in action with your own name. I'm sorry there was a misunderstanding, but we're not mindreaders and do the best we can. I'm glad the issue has been clarified and that folks will be able to see the instructions for your plugin. --Guppymomma 11:18, 18 December 2005 (PST)
- Delete away! :-) --Thespian 19:05, 18 December 2005 (PST)
- I actually mentioned that in my very first comment above replying to your question where I said "Make an article in the main namespace." (as I had noticed you'd added it as a YPPedia: page) and gave an example of one such article in the main namespace (not a YPPedia: article), the Shoppe Tool and a "Search" on Belgarion which besides listing his pirate article also contains the shoppe tool article. In fact, you stated that you did not see the Shoppe Tool listed on the search results page for Belgarion. Because you did not ask any specific questions about my comment, there was no way for any of us to know what you were looking at/seeing/expecting and you did not indicate that you saw what we were talking about with the Belgarion example. The best way to show you was for Fiddler to create that main namespace article and at least temporarily delete this article so you could see it in action with your own name. I'm sorry there was a misunderstanding, but we're not mindreaders and do the best we can. I'm glad the issue has been clarified and that folks will be able to see the instructions for your plugin. --Guppymomma 11:18, 18 December 2005 (PST)
- Thanks a lot, Barrister. It was driving me nuts - being told the mention wasn't anywhere else, when I knew I had added it elsewhere. I'd suggest, Fiddler, Guppymomma, that you reassess places where you have told this to people and ask where they added it instead of assuming that they weren't following instructions (which I believed I was - on Wikipedia searches cover all info on the site). I obviously should have told you where I had added it, of course, not just that I added it, you might have noticed earlier. --Thespian 11:00, 18 December 2005 (PST)
Because Thespian now qualifies to have an article based on the guidelines (she's a Shanty Jockey), I'm going to restore the deleted page, and do some edits on it. --Thunderbird 12:27, 8 February 2006 (PST)
