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Talk:Cobalt blockade history

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Blockadeus interruptus

Historically, we've not created a new blockade entry for the second half of an interrupted blockade, even if they're at a new island. Take a look at some of the early Midnight blockade events. For consistency, I'm removing LSH I. --Barrister 21:23, 21 January 2006 (PST)

Works for me. --Yaten talk 21:59, 21 January 2006 (PST)

Napi Peak blockade name

Every other blockade name has truncated the island to one word (except for DN, which can't really be truncated). Please leave Napi Peak's blockades as Napi *number* for consistency. --Thunderbird 16:30, 15 April 2006 (PDT)

Olive II

I've been told this blockade never actually happened, due to issues that cropped up during the series of events that it was planned in. --Thunderbird 11:34, 9 May 2006 (PDT)

I confirmed this with Bibity. The blockade never happened because the events planned were cancelled. --Fannon 12:56, 9 May 2006 (PDT)
In that case...*runs around editing stuff*. --Thunderbird 13:15, 9 May 2006 (PDT)

Typhoon 24 hour blockade

I don't seem to find that blockade here, the one Art of War won against Hydrophobia for the 24 hour blockade thing. -- Psychox

The total win/loses

Hmmm, do give-away events such as Conglin count in the total win/loses count too? Cause it just took me half hour to figure we hadn't had any other loses except on the Conglin event we held. -- Psychox

I don't think event blockades (especially those which predate the game mechanic for event blockades) should be counted in the win/loss records for those numbers to hold much meaning. --Darksmell

All Hands on Deck win/loss %

losses = Ansel I,Ansel VI, Labyrinth VI Wins = Ansel V, Labyrithn V I'm not sure how ye count all these but that makes 40% wins and the history report would be wrong. THX Hagriad

Elements of Fear Win/Loss record not accurate

I'm not certain this is how I report this, so please forgive me if there was a better way to do this . . . The win/loss chart shows Elements of Fear as having 0 wins and 2 losses. I think you are missing one loss and one win for them. I find: Oct 7, 2006 - Lost Virdis V March 31, 2007 - Lost Labyrinth IV July 28, 2007 - Lost Cochineal III March 1, 2008 - Won Harmatten VII

The win/loss tables have to be updated manually, and it can be a time consuming process. Most of the win/loss tables are outdated, and until someone feels inspired enough, they'll continue to be so, unfortunately. --Fannon 15:06, 8 June 2008 (PDT)
I'm going to be udating the Win Loss Tables as according to the actual Blockade Tables information reflects. However, I don't find the event blockades worthy of tabulation and like Viridian, they aren't even noted at all based on the frequency and the nature of the blockade being non-loss ventures for anyone less capable than for dropping a real blockade.-- Haywoodx(t/c) 22:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Event blockades being included in win/loss record

I've developed a new tool to automatically tally the win/loss records. But I haven't written in checking to see if the blockade is an event blockade or not. I believe that if the blockade is not notable enough to be included in the blockade history, then it is notable enough to be included in the win/loss record.

My two recommended options are: 1) Delete event blockades from blockade history pages. 2) Leave them as part of the win/loss record. My non-recommended option: 3) Update my tool to ignore blockades specified as "event blockades".

Comments? --Burninat0r 04:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

The blockades that are listed in the blockade hustory as "event blockades" are real actual blockades that have simply been designated as events by mutual consent (or by the OMs saying "it's an event and that's that"). They are all blockades run before the invention of what we call event blockades today, thus they are still true blockades. --Belthazar451 07:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Not sure why things like island-giveaway blockades are not counted on Cobalt, they are counted for Sage. Personally I would tend to option 2. Another thing, links like [[Super Awesomeness|SUPER AWESOMENESS]] should be allowed. In this case the flag was renamed, but blockades before the rename should show the old name in my opinion. Shouldn't be too hard to implement, just ignore anything after the pipe in the link. --Alfwyn 12:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
On the sage blockade history, DOMINANT STORM was changed retroactively. I don't know who did that, perhaps that should be reverted for their earlier blockades. I've reverted the SUPER AWESOMENESS links. --Burninat0r 22:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
I will look into the DOMINANT STORM issue this weekend (if nobody else does before). Something else, I just noticed that the "Death's Daggers" line for the Sage win/loss appears double, probably because of a similar issue (rename from "Death's Dagger's"). --Alfwyn 22:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
The change I made that fixed the issue with Super Awesomeness also fixed the Death's Dagger's issue. Thanks for pointing it out, fixed! --Burninat0r 22:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Dragon's Nest BK blockade - Oct 2009

I just added the records for Barnabas at DN. Seems like this *should* be listed on this page, since it's a real/non-Event blockade. However, I'll be honest, I'm still completely in the dark as to whether or not this was how the Ringers were planning to take DN back from Static, whether Static asked for a huge BK drop, or even on the timing of all this (I was under the impression that the island should have returned to Ringer control a week earlier... So, this blockade is a strange one-off -- a BK drop on a temporarily player controlled Ringer Island at the tail end of a month-long player-ownership event. This also left me befuddled as to whether or not I should update the Static win/loss records to show this as a loss. I think it was artificially designed to be all but impossible to win... At any rate, wanted full disclosure on my edits here for the future record, so that corrections can be made as needed. --Hockeygeek 20:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

You probably know this but haven't mentioned it explicity: From comments I saw in vessel chat in the day, I believe Static "scuttled" Barny's flotilla, knowing that DN was due to be taken back by the Ringers anyway. I agree this one should be listed on the page as it resulted in a change of ownership, however short-lived. I agree it would have been pretty well impossible to win. --Lesleywalker 21:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Static Before the Storm intentionally scuttled the BK to DN, however the island transfer took place before the blockade could happen. Static petitioned the ringers to allow them to defend the island. --Cybrpyro 30 January 2012
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