Template talk:Trinket basic paragraph
I would like to pick a point with grammar, as I often do. As it stands now, the grammar reads "The conch shells is a trinket." for a conch shell trinket. I think it would read better if it was "A (insert singular trinket name here) is a type of trinket." Jlh0605 20:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- In the case of the conch shell, that's an error that's been made on the article itself, not the template. The thing is, some of the trinket names are inherently plural - daisies is one example. The original article got around it by calling it a "bunch of daisies" which is sigular, but as the template currently stands, using other names would make other bits break... --Belthazar451 21:48, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've thought that "A daisies is one trinket named Daisies." but maybe I'm misunderstanding? I think I can fix this template but I must study grammar before that. --Piripuwa 13:37, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- It also breaks trinkets like Black lilies. Just add a new parameter for pluralised trinkets which can adjust a few things. Can make some nice tricks with a few if checks.--Sagacious (talk) 01:17, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the informations. I made a draft (that is User:Piripuwa/Sandbox/Template:Trinket basic paragraph_(20100922)). I think the articles that already implement this aren't affected by this change. But I might still mistake grammar. The original daisies article said "Daisies are a type of trinket."[1] Also the original black lilies articles said "Black lilies are a trinket."[2] Can call both of them "(trinket name) are a trinket"? --Piripuwa 16:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- "Black lilies are a trinket" is ok grammar, because the lilies together form a single trinket. Personally I prefer "are a trinket" to "are a type of trinket", though that may be my opinion - to me, a type of trinket is "pin", or "valentine trinket" or whatever. On a side note, "plural" is probably a better name for the parameter - it's shorter, and avoids the American-spelling/correct-spelling confusion of "pluralised". --Belthazar451 22:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help! I fixed my sandbox (User:Piripuwa/Sandbox/Template:Trinket basic paragraph_(20100922)). Also I'm planning to try to change this template on the model of my sandbox... in tomorrow or later.--Piripuwa 02:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
- "Black lilies are a trinket" is ok grammar, because the lilies together form a single trinket. Personally I prefer "are a trinket" to "are a type of trinket", though that may be my opinion - to me, a type of trinket is "pin", or "valentine trinket" or whatever. On a side note, "plural" is probably a better name for the parameter - it's shorter, and avoids the American-spelling/correct-spelling confusion of "pluralised". --Belthazar451 22:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the informations. I made a draft (that is User:Piripuwa/Sandbox/Template:Trinket basic paragraph_(20100922)). I think the articles that already implement this aren't affected by this change. But I might still mistake grammar. The original daisies article said "Daisies are a type of trinket."[1] Also the original black lilies articles said "Black lilies are a trinket."[2] Can call both of them "(trinket name) are a trinket"? --Piripuwa 16:58, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- It also breaks trinkets like Black lilies. Just add a new parameter for pluralised trinkets which can adjust a few things. Can make some nice tricks with a few if checks.--Sagacious (talk) 01:17, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've thought that "A daisies is one trinket named Daisies." but maybe I'm misunderstanding? I think I can fix this template but I must study grammar before that. --Piripuwa 13:37, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
(Undent) I fixed this template and pluralised trinket articles. I didn't fix Imperial field rations and Caltrops. I think those are singular trinkets because original articles[3][4] said "(trinket name) is...". --Piripuwa 16:55, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is there a reason the BK trinkets handle text case differently to the other trinkets? Only I noticed that when it comes to trinket names with proper nouns, neither Jolly Roger pin nor Stingy Jack's lantern display the correct case, but key to the Nether-Sea does. --Belthazar451 13:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Also, Holly Roger, North Star pin, and Jeweled North Star pin seem not display the correct case. I made a draft of fixed version of this template without any new parameter... sample is User:Piripuwa/Sandbox/Template:Trinket basic paragraph_(20101024)/expected. I'm planning to try to change this template on the model of my sandbox... in tomorrow or later. --Piripuwa 06:42, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- I updated the templates. But trinket articles still not display the correct case. For example, Jolly Roger pin displays "The Jolly Roger pin is..." (I think it is fine) but Plain pin displays "The Plain pin..." (I think it's not fine). When ppl update each trinket article, it will display the correct case. I'm sorry about my weak English but I don't get what is the correct case yet . (e.g., which is the correct case, "Holly Roger" or "holly Roger"?) So I have not been editing each trinket article yet. --Piripuwa 02:54, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Also, Holly Roger, North Star pin, and Jeweled North Star pin seem not display the correct case. I made a draft of fixed version of this template without any new parameter... sample is User:Piripuwa/Sandbox/Template:Trinket basic paragraph_(20101024)/expected. I'm planning to try to change this template on the model of my sandbox... in tomorrow or later. --Piripuwa 06:42, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
remove the "Clear" ??
I'm not certain -how- this is happening, but there is some form of "clear" command after the info-box, which is pushing the color-grid down several rows more than necessary, giving an excessive gap between the text for the "Colors" and the color-grid proper.
For example: Band; Exotic card; Gemstone ring; Greeting card
Like I said, I'm not comfortable enough with wiki-code's IF-THEN logic structure to muck about with this code myself, so I wanted to post this and ask for someone else (with better wiki-fu than my own) to please look at this. Thanks. -- Franklincain (t/c) 07:05, 6 August 2013 (PDT)
- If it's not there, the wider images tend to overlap the infobox on narrower monitors. It's pretty much a case of having to cater to the lowest denominator. --Belthazar451 14:06, 6 August 2013 (PDT)
- Ahh, I see. :-) Thanks for the explanation. -- Franklincain (t/c) 14:19, 6 August 2013 (PDT)
