Template talk:Familiar box

Automatic tagging

Should this template automatically tag with Category:Familiar winners? --Barrister 17:14, 11 April 2006 (PDT)

Not all people using this template will have won their familiar? --Sagacious 00:29, 12 April 2006 (PDT)

Indeed, some may have been purchased for PoE, for example, or traded for various goods and/or services. (And in my own case, they may exist only in my fevered imagination as well as in my sandbox!)

--Franklincain 14:16, 30 May 2012 (PDT)

You posted to a six year old discussion with a "me too"? Editcount++? --Belthazar451 14:56, 30 May 2012 (PDT)

Heh.  ;-) No, not for "+Editcount" but because I just tried using the "official" template for familiars and had this same problem. Wound up using the "other" familiar template instead... -- Franklincain 15:48, 30 May 2012 (PDT)

Colors

Colors for each ocean seem indecipherable (to me anyway). Perhaps we can add the ocean name above the familiar image? —Sivius^(T/C) 22:56, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

Examples! —Sivius^(T/C) 23:02, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

What didn't work about it? I just reverted it a sec and it seems to work fine. --Sagacious ^(talk) 00:52, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

Go to Silverdawg's page and Ctrl-F5 (clear page cache). The boxes seem to shrink width wise (In FF anyway). —Sivius^(T/C) 01:01, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

I guess it does work *kicks old computer*. —Sivius^(T/C) 01:03, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

I'm not fond of this change. The infobox only needs to be a quick representation, not a thorough listing. Along that thought, the backgrounds were only meant to add color to the infobox, not to be a primary source of information. In all but the most extreme cases it is just as simple to look at the article to see which ocean the familiar was won on.

Also, on pages where the pirate has won more than one familiar it has expanded the width of the infobox beyond the width of the portrait. --Fiddler 06:03, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

I'd be fine with a smallish letter icon for the ocean (especially after we get the dozens and dozens of doubloon oceans that Liz has (exaggeratingly) alluded to, I imagine I'll have quite a bit of trouble telling my Sage from my Forest from my Bottle from my Hunter from my Seafoam from my Chartreuse, from my... you get the point. So how about a small blue M for Midnight, C for Cobalt, green V for Viridian, S for Sage, and H for Hunter? The full name looks clunky and busy, while an icon might look kinda cool. /em goes to make a mockup. --Ponytailguy 06:16, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

Go Go Gadget Mockup! --Ponytailguy 06:44, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

Looks good, though I preferred the version with the icon in the upper right corner above the image. Also, in anticipation of another ocean starting with the same letter as a previous one, perhaps we should use a three letter abbreviation instead (Mid, Cob, Vir, Hnt, Sag, Ice.)--Fiddler 06:48, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

PTG's new icons

How about doing it like this instead? I think it looks cleaner. (Check out the page's history to see earlier attempts and versions.)

I've got them abbreviated as:

• Az (Azure)
• Cblt (Cobalt)
• Hun (Hunter)
• Ice (Ice)
• Mid (Midnight)
• Sa (Sage... Sg would be more appropiate, but the font's gs look like es, which is confusing.)
• Vrdn (Viridian)--Ponytailguy 08:33, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

Urg I don't like the abbreviation idea. I'm sure that the original idea of full words works - just the font size needs a shrinking and I think there is a blank inside border for the box - remove it :-) --Sagacious ^(talk) 09:15, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

I'm also not a fan of the abbreviations. I agree with Sagacious that font size might be a better solution. Alternately, it might be time to create distinct icons (without words) for each ocean. --Barrister 12:37, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

I think that works. Bolding the familiar name makes it stand out, the ocean name sits nicely up there at the top. Approval++ --Sagacious ^(talk) 14:54, 23 May 2006 (PDT)

I'd prefer to see an abbreviation or an icon than the name written out in full. Thinking about this from a design perspective, what is the most important information for the infobox to convey? When I designed it, I thought familiar type first, familiar name second, and ocean last. Ideally, the box conveys quickly and visually "Oh, this person won a gold monkey. Let me read more to find out where and how." To keep this information order, we should strive to make the ocean name (abbreviation, icon, whetever) smaller and less important than even the name.--Fiddler 14:55, 23 May 2006 (PDT)