Talk:Imperial outpost

Doubloon sink

i hope they dont create another dubloon sink on the production oceans —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainpk (talk • contribs)

Picture

I have uploded an image of the imperial outpost. Could someone please put it in the article with the nice border, or tell me how to do it? Thanks. --Wendy20 22:38, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

By the way, it is Imperial Outpost.jpg. Thanks again! --Wendy20 22:39, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Added that image but it may need to be replaced with a .png file for higher image quality. -- Faulkston 03:32, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Datamining

I'd like to see map prices for combinations of all, sinking and non-sinking, the different fortification levels and size. There are rumors that small maps will spawn sloops, medium spawn war brigs, large spawn war frigs and huge spawn grand frigs.

In all my sloop test runs the imperial guards had the same kind and color swords. The kind of sword might be linked to the difficulty level of the fort in some way. I also have been fighting 7 guards (as many as us) after the reboot regardless of fortification level.

The AI seems to be different from the normal pillaging AI, they seem to drive in a way where they dodge any possible shots in the early parts of a round. Not sure if and how we can use that kind of information on the YYPedia.

You can have as many maps as you wish and they may be on the same spot on the map.

I'd like to know also what happens if you lose the sb (non-sinking) or the sf. --Kamuflaro 15:12, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

If you lost the sf you just end up back on the ship at the league point, and you keep the chart. --Loonytonks 23:03, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

If you lose the sb in a non-sinking one, it puts your vessel back at port (at the island you left from). Adrielle ♥ =) 23:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I think it was the closest island, not the island we started from - and we appear to have kept the chart. Adrielle ♥ =) 23:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I would also like to see a difficulty level chart. Anyone knows this yet? I am talking about the adjectives: Barricaded, Formidable, Defensible, Entrenched, Sheltered, Impregnable, Last and/or there is a difference in the noun: Bunker, Toehold, Post, Hold, Fort, Keep (these are the ones I have found so far). Angara 18:23, 28 November 2009 (CET)

The chart's difficulty level is indicated by its description phrase, not its name. That is, when you look at the list of charts to buy, it'll say either fledgling, established or fortified. Fledgling is easiest, fortified is hardest. Don't read too much into the names - like the Atlantis and CI charts and other expedition locations, they're all randomly generated. And yeah, I give no credence to the "certain names means it's a trike map" theory either. --Belthazar451 22:28, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

on the ice ocean i have discovered that every CI and Atlantis map that is named "name X" will always lead you to the same point, im not sure if this is the same with these as well.. i suppose it is.

Results

11/29/09:

• small established: sloop vs sloop 7 pirates vs 7 soldiers, 2 small, 2 grog, 7825 poe
• small fortified: sloop vs sloop 6 pirates vs 7 soldiers, 4 small, 2 grog, 10768 poe --Kamuflaro 16:50, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

12/1/09:

• small fortified sinking: Sloop vs Sloop 7 pirates vs 7 soldiers, 12 small, 7 grog, 17476 PoE

--Polaris395 20:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

12/2/09:

• small established sinking (~5k for map): sloop vs sloop (about 50 balls shot, 4 rum consumed) 7 pirates vs 8 soldiers, 8 small, 8 grog, 12760 poe --Kamuflaro 23:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

12/3/09:

• small established sinking (~5k for map): sloop vs sloop, 7 pirates vs 7 soldiers, 7 small, 4 grog, 11574 poe --Kamuflaro 19:50, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

12/5/09: -- Angara 01:25, 5 December 2009 (CET)

• small Established sinking (5236 for map): sloop vs sloop, 7 pirates vs 8 soldiers, 7 small, 4 grog, 14091 poe
• small Fledging, nonsinking (~3,5k for map): sloop vs sloop, 7 pirates vs 7 soldiers, 2 small, 1 grog, 4958 poe
• small Fledging, sinking (3264 for map): sloop vs sloop, 7 pirates vs 8 soldiers, 5 small, 3 grog, 8570 poe
• small Established, nonsinking (3449 for map): sloop vs sloop, 7 pirates vs 6 soldiers, 2 small, 1 grog, 6483 poe
• small Established, sinking (4772 for map): sloop vs sloop, 7 pirates vs 8 soldiers, 7 small, 5 grog, 4348 poe
• small Established, sinking (4910 for map): sloop vs sloop, 7 pirates vs 6 soldiers, 5 small, 3 grog, 10308 poe

22/12/09: -- Lieutenantt 09:12, 22 December 2009 (EST)

• Medium Fortified, nonsinking(unknown for map): War Brig vs War Brig, 24 pirates vs 22 soldiers, 7 med cbs, 7 grog, 37833 poe

Driftwood

It should be added for consistancy, because it has been added for flotillas too, which have no special sinking trophy either and come in sinking and non-sinking versions too. Besides the experience trophies were a bad addition to the game, but that's an entirely different topic. --Kamuflaro 23:45, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

It was decided at some point a few months ago (don't recall exactly when) that articles would only display trophies unique to that situation - so trophies on sinking go in sinking, trophies on experience go in experience, et cetera. We went through all the articles and stripped out trophies that didn't belong, though it does look as though flotilla and blockade got missed. --Belthazar451 00:06, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm strongly for removing the non-specific trophies from the three pages (leaving none for flotillas). It just makes for long lists, swamping the specific ones and it is hard to draw a line. All trophies that are "often" gained in such situations? All trophies that could conceivably gained in such situations (which will be a lot: boots of bilging, incredible *, ultimate *, ultimate of ultimates, experience ...)? --Alfwyn 23:41, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Since the discussion has already been made go ahead and remove them from those pages for cinsistancy. Anyone can link me to that discussion? --Kamuflaro 19:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

It's in the middle of the YPPedia Q&A thread: http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1708084#1708084 --Alfwyn 19:30, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

eehm thats only a post of YOU , hardly can call it a discussion.... you are kinda thinking YOU are the middle of the universe. Wake up , you ARE NOT the middle of the universe ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainpk (talk • contribs)

Captainpk, some of yer comments on this matter (both here, on the forums, and in your edit summaries) have been rather inappropriate. Name calling, personal attacks and shouting are not good wiki or forum etiquette. If you would like to continue to contribute to this discussion, please do so politely, and with respect to other contributors. Adrielle ♥ =) 10:10, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Furthermore, we've given you three weeks in which to present your opinion on the matter, even to the point of giving you a specific invitiation on your talk page. That you instead chose to cast insults speaks volumes. --Belthazar451 10:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

ill just give up convincing you guys to add it, im gonna concentrate on updating crew/flag pages now —Preceding unsigned comment added by Captainpk (talk • contribs)

Hey, excuse me!

Can anybody tell me if ye can blockade an imperial outpost in Crimson --Corridon

You need an Explorer's Hall on a bigger than outpost size island, I don't think that exists on Crimson. You can ask through petition. On Crimson you would not get sinking maps tho. --Kamuflaro 01:26, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually there is an OM operated explorers' hall on Sakejima Island, selling non-sinking IO maps. --Alfwyn 12:53, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Trinket

I have noticed the number of trinkets given out equals the amount of soldiers you fight. Any clarification on this? --Wendy20 15:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Fault in suggested ship

The number of soldiers on the enemy sloop can never be 10 Captainpk

Hm, but in the Results section above there are 8 soldiers mentioned several times for small outposts, so a maximum of 7 doesn't seem to right either. (And I guess the numbers in the table are talking about the soldiers encountered on land, not the ones on the sloop). --Alfwyn 19:27, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Aye, it's soldiers on the island not on the sloop. 10 was correct. I did some asking around - 8 is extremely common, and 10 has been seen, though less often. --Belthazar451 22:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

I did go looking for an offical stance on the matter and received the answer that it should be 6 to 8 soldiers. Of course there is a chance that this is wrong, but I'm going to change it to those numbers anyway, because they are easily falsified by someone encountering more or less. On the other hand it is nearly impossible to prove that there are never 10 soldiers and should the number be false it won't be corrected. --Alfwyn 11:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Please revert your edit --Kamuflaro 17:44, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

====== 2010/06/14 ======
[18:11:51] Now that ye've sunk their ship, ye'll need to raid the outpost.  Ashore, mates!
[18:12:04] Kamuflaro says, "Charge!"
[18:12:08] Lieutenant Nia shouts, "Make REA-DY!"
[18:12:09] Autastic says, "what he said"
[18:12:11] Lieutenant Nia shouts, "ATTACK!"
[18:13:41] Corporal Errol is eliminated!
[18:13:44] Private Fred is eliminated!
[18:13:47] Corporal Maclean is eliminated!
[18:14:18] Private Nolan is eliminated!
[18:14:21] Corporal Bjorn is eliminated!
[18:14:24] Private Priscilla is eliminated!
[18:14:34] Private Brody is eliminated!
[18:14:57] Private Elizabeth is eliminated!
[18:15:47] Lieutenant Nia is eliminated!
[18:15:48] Game over.  Winners: Callinger, Cobralady, Uqie, Oreius, Poppet, Autastic, Kamuflaro.

Thanks for checking that. --Alfwyn 19:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

New minimum pirates for sloop

During my IO run i found out the minimum number of pirates on a small Sinking IO chart is 4

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/tangyandrew/13vs4.jpg