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Contents 1 Miscellaneous Trophies 2 Colouring cells 3 Enlightened Eradicator 4 Broken table formating 5 CI foraging trophies 6 Proposed Cursed Isles section mockup 7 Bellator's bane 8 Sea Legs 9 Seals

Miscellaneous Trophies

There are two sets of Miscellaneous Trophies on the page; why are they different and should they be combined? --Katyland 11:16, 8 October 2009 (PDT)

I was wondering that too, but the ones are currently available misc trophies and the others are historical (not available anymore). For example the Seal o' Piracy: October 2009 and the One-Eyed Maple will be moved to historical misc trophies in september. (Ooops, the Seal o' Piracy: October 2009 is in the historical category already, well not a biggy...) --Kamuflaro 19:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Yep, basicly the one under the Historical, are Misc that are not avalible, the normal misc, are ones currently avalible... or Misc that will stay there until Dev's turn them off. Well, thats a guess but it seems right? --Lcawte 20:08, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe they should be re-labeled with "no longer available"? On the German trophy page they are all together. --Katyland 14:03, 8 October 2009 (PDT)

Never mind. They are listed under historic trohpies, that heading just kinda gets lost to me as I scroll. --Katyland 14:05, 8 October 2009 (PDT)

Colouring cells

Some of the new trophies include a bit of the background colour on them around shiny parts. I propose colouring those trophy cells in, possibly extending this to all trophies, not just ones that are not fully transparent.

Broad

--Sagacious ^(talk) 17:17, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

Aye, I noticed that. The patches of background colour are because the shiny parts actually make the background slightly lighter. I think if you're going to colour some of the cells, you should colour all of them - possibly this calls for some sort of sandbox mock-up so we can see how it looks. (Another thought is to simply touch up the images, but I don't think that would look too good.) --Belthazar451 18:05, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

It would certainly make everything, specially the new trophies, neater. I support the idea. --Cecidrake 18:16, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

First mock. The borders have been thinned and coloured as they are on trophy pages. I was thinking of making the labels blue like trophy titles but this may look strange against wikilinks and it also doesn't apply to that many titles. I also think the titles look OK with a coloured background. --Sagacious ^(talk) 19:00, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

Looks pretty good. Brings them out somewhat, too. =) On a vaguely-related note, since we're already mucking about with formatting, why are the sections on the trophies page in that particular order? And since the Ultimate Piracy/Carousing/Crafting trophies are (probably) alone in their columns, is it worth simply lopping them off and sticking them up with the Ultimate of Ultimates trophy? --Belthazar451 19:04, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

I've added something like this to the mock. It does seem to make more sense :-) --Sagacious ^(talk) 19:33, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

Just wanted to draw attention to my other proposed change - the arrangement of the first two trophies on the page. The code doesn't look great but the display seems a lot better to me--Sagacious ^(talk) 19:14, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

I'm not so sure about that. The trophy boxes are different widths (though I've no idea why), which looks a bit... untidy. Maybe the whole thing should be contained in one table. --Belthazar451 19:46, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

Sagacious, make sure the tables are easy to edit. --Barrister 20:49, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

Why are Sagacious' suggested changes any easier or harder than what's up there now? Are you suggesting we just make the "style" section of the table header into a template, and just call the template instead? --Belthazar451 20:55, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

I've tried to improve the readability of the tables by reducing the table starter to a template. --Sagacious ^(talk) 10:47, 25 June 2008 (PDT)

Finally had a chance to give the pages a good comparison. I really wasn't sure I liked the background on the trophies at first but it is starting to grow on me, I think.

Some specifics. I prefer the original layout of the Blockade trophies (Battered Hat and Weathered Helm) on the trophy page. I also prefer the width of the Duty Puzzle Maneuvers on the trophy page; the mock up seems too compressed there. I'm undecided about the Ultimate trophies but leaning more towards the current version rather then the mock up. Whether we go with these backgrounds or not, using the template for the table certainly cleans up the coding on the page, and I always like that. That being said, I think a more appropriate name for the entries would be {{Trophy entry|name=Battered Hat}}. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 13:17, 25 June 2008 (PDT)

I'm curious as to what ever came of this idea. Only it's been almost six months. Is Sagacious still a regular visitor, or should I just implement it myself? We seemed to be pretty much in agreement that it was a good idea back in June. --Belthazar451 00:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not too involved in trophies, so first question would be whether Cedarwings' concerns were addressed? I agree with Barrister that the implementation should be "hidden" in the template or something where editing of the page remains easier on the eyes without giant added blobs of text for every single cell or whatnot. Do we need a new mockup or anything (just thinking of changes the page has undergone in the past 6 months)? I'll also toss in my opinion that coloring the cells would be nice since that's how they're always seen. --Guppymomma 14:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Enlightened Eradicator

On the page it says that it can be achieved after 50 winning frays. That is not true. It is 25 winning frays. I kept track of my CI trips where I got to the frays and it is 25. I haven't edited it yet because I need to confirm with one or two people. ~Polariss

Further discussion of this in the Trophy Speculation and Discussion thread please --Alfwyn 22:21, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

I have to agree that the criteria be removed as I have the trophy yet I know I havent participated in 50 frays yet. I imagine the number is closer to 20 or 25.-- Haywood^x(t/c) 02:50, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I count forty-eight winning CI frays between when I got the Cultist Crusher and when I got the Elightened Eradicator, but that includes a few ship-board frays. I very very much doubt I had twenty-something ship-board frays. One of us has to have miscounted quite badly, and I'm pretty sure it ain't me. --Belthazar451 05:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Broken table formating

On the Atlantis and CI related trophy tables the alignments of some cells content is broken, reason is because text in other cells expands the boundries. This is an internet explorer issue only - Does not happen with my firefox. The texts in question seem to be "Unknown number of sunken Archelon" or relatives. I suggest leaving the silly ie its will and force a linebreak. -- Kamuflaro 01:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Explicitely specifying the width for every cell fixes it for IE (and should do no harm since it is just redundant). Where to force the line breaks would probably be font size dependent. --Alfwyn 13:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

CI foraging trophies

The three foraging trophies (Cursed Forager, Hexed Forager, Enlightened Forager) are clearly for foraging in CI. They could either be awarded from left to right for a number of chests hauled (without chest size conditions) or they could be awarded for a certain number of the chests specified in the image (small, medium, large). Has anyone managed to figure out which of these it is? I can only speculate because I haven't gotten anything beyond the first one. --Moonfish1985 12:10, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

The trophy speculation thread is the place for... well.. trophy speculation. =) Just to summarise, though, we're quite certain they're for foraging. We're also pretty sure the Cursed Forager is for 100 points (where a BB is worth 1, a FJ 2 and a CC 3), but haven't worked out how many is required for the other two. --Belthazar451 12:25, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposed Cursed Isles section mockup

I noticed today that the text for this section has recently been edited a couple times, but still seemed a bit unclear, so I took it upon myself to attempt to clarify what was already there. I believe the language I used for Vargas and frays is helpful and appropriate. So I think that should remain as it is.
The mockup I link to here adds information about homunculi. I would like other opinions before adding it to the saved version of the page. Is it helpful? Or is it possibly irrelevant or unnecessary? Or even simply overkill? Cursed Isles Trophies Mockup
--Entharion 11:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I think the explanation of frays on this page should be kept to a minimum, the Cursed Isles page should have the detailled description of frays. --Alfwyn 17:08, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Alfwyn. Personally, I think the line, "Frays alternate rumble/swordfight/rumble etc." should be removed from the trophy page. The trophies have nothing to do with this aspect of the frays. -- Cedarwings ^(talk) 18:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Bellator's bane

I just got it from the crew winning a fray...that I wasn't even involved in. Perhaps that little tidbit should be added? Bassgoonist 18:51, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I confirm this, it's happened to me too.--Plng 17:24, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Please bring up issues like this in the thread mentioned at the top of the page, you will reach a larger audience there. --Alfwyn 17:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Sea Legs

After today's update, I got a trophy called "Sea Legs" and so did my hearties. Anyone have any idea what this is?

-Scurvyskull on Cobalt

Yes. Trophy Speculation and Discussion thread. --Belthazar451 23:08, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if it maybe has something to do with logging off. I got off my ship and logged off, then when I logged back on I got it. Maybe like if the officer of the ship (which was me) logs off before anyone else? I don't know.

Use the Trophy Speculation and Discussion thread for trophy... uh... speculation and discussion, please. --Belthazar451 04:57, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Seals

The November seal is already listed under historical trophies. That's not quite accurate. --Katyland 20:06, 2 November 2009 (PDT)

Yeah, we know. It's the lazy option. =) --Belthazar451 07:37, 3 November 2009 (UTC)