Talk:Faminto por Sangue
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Someone should note that this flag is no longer active. :( --Geekers 12:06, 10 November 2007 (PST)
Do you have permission to link to Boomy Tunes? As much as I doubt Bo would care either way, it's neither a constant stream (It's only fired up for blockades we're involved in, and sometimes not even then), nor does it do blockade updates (Teamspeak Teamspeak Rah Rah Rah!), nor is it intended as a public thing like Shanty; if 300 people tuned in at the same time on Blockade day, Bo's computer might melt. --Teeg 19:39, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- It's in their public statement in-game. --Thunderbird 19:42, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- Yes, but the article suggests it's a kind of broad, always-running station that everyone should listen to when it's really a narrow-interest station that's really of interest to people involved with BSB blocakdes and who like a harder sound than Shanty. Either way, even a public statement is only visible to people who bother to read that far on a single ocean (And how many people don't just skim past UrLs in statements anyway?) The wiki has a much broader readership. Plus this doesn't address the core principle of "It's ours, not yours. Ask, please." --Teeg 19:50, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- I don't think anybody who wouldn't see it in-game would see it here, unless they were looking for it...but if they were specifically looking for it, and this wasn't here, they would just login to midnight and look at it there, no? I think the point that it's not a constant stream etc. is moot anyway, because the link was posted in a forum topic which has a FAR broader readership than either the wiki or the info page in-game. Wilt 19:56, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- I don't think anyone here has actually argued with the main argument in my original comment, content to pick away at weaker minor points. Namely that this link is without permission as far as I know. --Teeg 19:58, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- If it wasn't menat to be public, it should not have been included in a public statement. One mission of the YPPedia is to archive the past and present of Puzzle Pirates. As for permission, the YPPedia is a function of Puzzle Pirates. From the Terms of Service:
- You hereby grant Three Rings a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, sub-licensable, worldwide, royalty-free license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, distribute, publicly display and perform any and all of your Participatory Content in all media now known or later developed. You, and not Three Rings, are entirely responsible for all of your Participatory Content that you upload, post, email or otherwise transmit via the Site, Services or Games.
- I don't think anyone here has actually argued with the main argument in my original comment, content to pick away at weaker minor points. Namely that this link is without permission as far as I know. --Teeg 19:58, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- I don't think anybody who wouldn't see it in-game would see it here, unless they were looking for it...but if they were specifically looking for it, and this wasn't here, they would just login to midnight and look at it there, no? I think the point that it's not a constant stream etc. is moot anyway, because the link was posted in a forum topic which has a FAR broader readership than either the wiki or the info page in-game. Wilt 19:56, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- Yes, but the article suggests it's a kind of broad, always-running station that everyone should listen to when it's really a narrow-interest station that's really of interest to people involved with BSB blocakdes and who like a harder sound than Shanty. Either way, even a public statement is only visible to people who bother to read that far on a single ocean (And how many people don't just skim past UrLs in statements anyway?) The wiki has a much broader readership. Plus this doesn't address the core principle of "It's ours, not yours. Ask, please." --Teeg 19:50, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- This means that the YPPedia can, reproduce any participatory content included in the game. That would include the public statement of a flag.--Fiddler 20:12, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- Addition - Having just realized that FpS is publicizing BSB's radio station, I'd say that's a matter between BSB and FpS.--Fiddler 20:20, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- Yes, thank you. I'm not saying ZOMG UR VILATING TEH RULEZ & COPYRITE I SUE U OK?!!?!?!?!, I'm just asking if you (you: The author, not you: everybody who decides to include themselves in a group and HWFO) would mind getting permission before linking to stuff we do that isn't the property of OOO. It's one thing to link to a forum topic, it's another to provide resources for offsite stuff without permission. --Teeg 20:43, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- Just remove it then with a note in the edit summary if it bothers you so much? All I did was copied and pasted, and thats what i'll continue to do with flag public statements...If they include a link to somewhere, then so be it. Wilt 20:54, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- Okay, so another flag is posting the address of your radio station in their public statement without your permission, right? And now you're upset that the wiki has copied, word for word, the public statement of that flag? On that issue, I still say you need to take it up with FpS. I'll make the address not a link in the article
- As part of the public statement it (the link, not the contents of said link) IS the property OOO. FpS did give permission, via the TOS, to copy that link to the YPPedia. Whether or not they had permission to post it in the first place is another matter.--Fiddler 21:03, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- Would somebody please refer to exactly where I said "What you're doing is against the rules. Please stop doing it." Because I don't see it; I just asked if he had permission to link to it. Didn't say he couldn't, didn't say he had to take it down or else, didn't say much of anything beyond "do you." So why am I being read the riot act? --Teeg 22:06, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- Because there's no real valid point just asking Do you have permission? If I had have said no to your original question then most probably it would have turned into Take it own or else. Wilt 09:23, 22 January 2006 (PST)
- Because clearly you're aware of precisely what I had in mind when I asked. If you read up instead of HWFOing, you'd see that I actually said it's not an especially big deal, just that we'd appreciate giving us credit or getting permission before referring to our resources. Funny how that works; I give a friendly reminder and get read my Mirandas. Now, the link in question is gone, so there's no point in people telling me what I said, or meant to say, or was really saying, especially when they're wrong, because the issue in question is moot. Can we please let this drop? --Teeg 12:31, 22 January 2006 (PST)
- FYI (and I know I'm coming in well after this has been essentially resolved - Thanks Barrister!)-- the version of the FpS Flag statement in question was apparently copied from shortly after the Ocra V blockade(Nov/05) when Jimminez DID have both Stu and Bo's permission to link to Boomy Tunes. In fact it was a personal request to do so. The link has not actually been in our public statement for a while now. In the future, if there is such issue, it might be wise to actually contact the parties involved through PM or in-game, before instigating a sizable and completely pointless debate on the wiki. --Ceylon / SeanaMO 23:22, 12 March 2006 (PST)
- Because clearly you're aware of precisely what I had in mind when I asked. If you read up instead of HWFOing, you'd see that I actually said it's not an especially big deal, just that we'd appreciate giving us credit or getting permission before referring to our resources. Funny how that works; I give a friendly reminder and get read my Mirandas. Now, the link in question is gone, so there's no point in people telling me what I said, or meant to say, or was really saying, especially when they're wrong, because the issue in question is moot. Can we please let this drop? --Teeg 12:31, 22 January 2006 (PST)
- Because there's no real valid point just asking Do you have permission? If I had have said no to your original question then most probably it would have turned into Take it own or else. Wilt 09:23, 22 January 2006 (PST)
- Would somebody please refer to exactly where I said "What you're doing is against the rules. Please stop doing it." Because I don't see it; I just asked if he had permission to link to it. Didn't say he couldn't, didn't say he had to take it down or else, didn't say much of anything beyond "do you." So why am I being read the riot act? --Teeg 22:06, 21 January 2006 (PST)
The audio server is currently down. Unless someone can add availability times, I'm removing it. Without availability, it's like a dead link. --Barrister 21:20, 21 January 2006 (PST)
- There are no avaliability times. Even saying "during blockades in which BSB participates" wouldn't cover it, since we never know if it'll be up or not until Bo flicks the magic switch. --Teeg 22:08, 21 January 2006 (PST)
