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red links

Please be careful when changing red links. You changed the two IM links on Black Pearl without changing the corresponding links on the island pages. Also, they were named according to the standard, it's just that the standard is a bit dicey when there's more than a few uses of the name. And it's not just a matter of changing the standard to something better, because all the options are messy...the most immediate example being that you changed that one link to Tigerleaf Mountain, of which there are two. I don't care whether you keep the red links the way they are now or change them back (as I said, there are issues either way, so pfft), but please change the island building list links if you're keeping these. --Budclare2 02:52, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Oops... Forgot about checking the Special:WhatLinksHere.... Thanks. :S I'll change the red-links back. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:22, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

new templates

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but anyone who needs to update those disambig pages is going to be annoyed. It normally takes five or ten seconds to update an entry; now people will have to track down documentation on obscure templates before they can do anything. It's not very practical. :( --Budclare2 03:30, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes, but several of these disambig pages haven't been updated in a long time and there may be some changes since the last edit to what they refer. You may have noticed that updating the disambig pages has become a pet project of mine. I made the templates to make my work a little easier, really. Just saying.
In any case, novice editors don't have to track down the documentation. They can input the information without using templates and I can fix it up afterwards! :) Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:22, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
If people are adding a new entry, they don't have to track down documentation. If they're trying to modify an existing link, you've just made their life more difficult. And I don't just mean novice editors. I don't like your new templates.
Copy and paste would have made your job easier, too, without making life more difficult for everyone else.
Just because you can make a template doesn't automatically mean you should, and just because something is your pet project doesn't mean you don't have to consider the editors who will come after you.
If you really want to use those templates, use substitution, please. --Budclare2 01:16, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Ah, okay. I guess I'll have to edit those Disambig pages again. Thanks for the advice! :) Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 04:05, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Island disambiguation page moves

There are two different standards for island page titles on disambiguation pages. The pages that held the (disambiguation) suffix the whole time had only one island of that name on an English speaking ocean, so the regular island name redirected to that (and the disambiguation page was set up in case someone wanted to look up the island on a different ocean). However, for the Cobalt/Viridian (and later Crimson) islands, there were multiple islands for that name on English oceans, so the base island name could not do the same thing, which is why it was the disambiguation page. --Thunderbird 21:28, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I see. It was just a little weird to me to see island/arch names without the (disambiguation) in the category. Was I s'posed to do those moves, then? Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 21:45, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Generally, no. The island/arch disambiguation pages follow the same standard as everything else (which is to only have (disambiguation) in the page title if the title without it isn't a disambig page). A number of the standards here came from Wikipedia, because they work and nobody saw any reason to change them. I'd appreciate it if you could undo those recent moves. --Thunderbird 03:36, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Okay, I'll do that now. Sorry about the bother. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:24, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

two things

1. Adding house and infrastructure links to building pages is unnecessary clutter. 2. I think you've edited more userspace pages in one day than I have in two years. Please stop. If their links just go to disambig pages now, leave them alone. --Budclare2 05:23, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I think it's time to take a break from editing for a while...... While I appreciate the advice you've given me, if there's any more regarding the disambig pages you can give me so I don't make any further mistakes, I'll read up on it when I decide to start up again..... Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 17:37, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
Ugh, that came out kinda cranky-sounding, didn't it? Sorry, I've been tired like whoa. :( --Budclare2 02:55, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, it did a tad, lol. :P No worries. I forgive you. Still need to stay on a break anyway, so if there's any more advice regarding the disambig pages my pet project focuses on, I'd appreciate it! Thanks! Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:44, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not ignoring you on purpose. (I was a little less tired last week, but gold boxes, so...)
I can't think of anything offhand that I didn't already mention. Sorry. :( --Budclare2 20:19, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 21:13, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Upload templates

I'm not sure I understand the point of the new templates. Most of that information seems redundant. Were you hoping they might clear up disambiguation confusion? --Budclare2 04:28, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

No, I made those to subst template-fied summaries when uploading portrait images and islands scenes. Although I'm not sure how to make it like this: {{Cerulean|Riot}}, not this: Riot (Cerulean). Subst only does the latter.. I rather prefer the Template when disambig'ing something.
What I'm trying to say is that is there a way to template-fy instantly a disambig link when subst'ing?Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 14:01, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
You don't really need to add a summary for those images. Between the filename, the tag, and the file usage list, they're usually pretty self-explanatory. --Budclare2 03:35, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Fair enough. But what about my question about template-fying a disambig link?Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 13:34, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
What Gunnerfreak is wanting, is the disambig template wikicode (within say Template:UploadSummary1) to be kept literally - instead of immediately evaluating the disambig template wikicode. I believe the intent is to only ever use say Template:UploadSummary1 via subst: in order to save typing but then why use subst: instead of keeping the template itself? -- Faulkston 02:37, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Would you mind rephrasing that first bit as well as your question? Anyway, yeah, I'm intending to only use Subst:, but with it automatically turning itself from {{Cerulean|Riot}} to [[Riot (Cerulean)]], I haven't been using my Templates as often as I'd like to.. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 13:27, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
There are gory details at wikipedia:Help:Substitution about controlling the substitution of the templates used within another template (itself being substituted rather than transcluded). Are you sure you want to go down that path - it may involve a lot of work to get correct? -- Faulkston 04:51, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm sure, mate. Can't be any harder than what I've seen other editors were doing for perfecting the Infoboxes. Thanks for the link, mate! :) Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 14:41, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Please keep up your idea link comments

Your comments have been most helpful. Thanks! -- Faulkston 03:11, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Oooh, you're welcome! Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 13:53, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Obsidian islands

Please don't poke yoweb expecting any useful information about obsidian. Whatever is there is for testing. --Budclare2 22:02, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

I realise that. That's why the category is presently blank. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 00:47, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
But you keep making guesses in your summaries, which is pointless. --Budclare2 01:00, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Fair enough. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 01:30, 6 April 2017 (UTC)


What was the problem with Karlinda's page? --Budclare2 21:34, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Oh.... Apparently there was an issue with viewing the page on my phone. It's fine now, I'm on my laptop... It was just that the sixth pet doesn't have a name. Which makes the ShowHide go over the sixth Pet. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 01:32, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Ah. Gotcha. :) --Budclare2 02:15, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Oh, also, it was the colour of that Tiger. lol. Thanks! That was part of the issue! Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 01:36, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Obsidian categories

Apologies for not saying something sooner, but I feel like it is way too soon to have the Obsidian categories up. Checking history, Malachite's crew category (the only ocean that opened after the YPPedia was moved to the Y!PP server) was created the day before the ocean opened, and the Cerulean crew category was created about a month before the ocean opened. For Obsidian, we don't even have a release date (just a range), and the existing yoweb data might not be around after the official opening. --Thunderbird 04:35, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Eh. Obsidian is going to be vastly more work than Malachite was, and that's saying a lot. There's very little we can do ahead of time aside from strategizing and making up to-do lists (and tearing my hair out trying to figure out what we're going to do about its background color; I guess we'll probably have to use the darkest shade of grey we can without making the links unreadable. Grr). It may have only taken five minutes to make up those categories, but that's still five minutes less work that we'll have to do when we're totally swamped. I don't see how empty categories hurts anything. He can comment out the category tags so they don't show up anywhere they shouldn't yet. (Psst, Gunner. Fix the sorting on the defunct categories while you're at it. They're supposed to sort under 'O', not 'D'. ;) --Budclare2 06:39, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Actually, there seems to be an issue with the sorting for sub-category sorting as shown here under G. For those misplaced, there are no Category sort things inserted in them.... Not from what I can tell, looking through the coding of the articles... Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 12:16, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
I fixed several of them for you. You can fix the rest of Category:Obsidian_Ocean. Make sure you comment out the non-obsidian parent categories so they don't show up where they shouldn't yet. We'll leave the obsidian ocean tags to make life easier for us.
And if/when you get admin'd, you can fix the ones in Category:Flags that aren't sorted right, too. ;) (I was going to clean up the flags, but they're protected.) ...crap, the merged ocean subcategories weren't all sorted, either, and they're protected, too. No wonder you didn't get them right. :( --Budclare2 23:12, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! :) I was wondering how to sort them. I'd seen it before in past edits of other pages, but didn't really get what they were for. Now I know. Thanks! Also, I updated the GCPP proposals, save for 2. It seems that the page-creators did not use substitution for them? Should I do that and fix the Cat-sorting? Hmm.... Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 17:58, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Don't make me facepalm. :(

"Uhhhh, KH is not really a type of Pillage, it's a Sea Monster Hunt.... Fixing."

Okay, that is the kind of comment Thunderbird was talking about. Do you want me making comments like that every time you make a mistake? It's not just that it's kind of rude, it flat makes no sense. Copy-and-paste booches happen to everyone sometimes. It didn't require a lengthy summary. (Yeah, I sometimes make comments like that about my own booches, but that's totally allowed. ;) --Budclare2 01:02, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Meh, yeah. Sorry about that. You're right about that. :/ I didn't know how else to word the correction but obviously not that way. Wrong tone. Sorry. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 01:34, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

lots of trophies

I was going to direct you to the pillage page for an example of how to deal with lots of similar trophies...but it turns out that we talked about it, but it was never actually done. Whoops.

In short, it's not practical to put all the flotilla trophies on the flotilla page. Probably just choose a couple as examples, then tweak the "The following trophies are related to flotilla:" text to make it more appropriate. (I'd maybe do it myself, but my brain isn't really here right now.) --Budclare2 20:04, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

infobox alts

Six alts is the maximum. Poor Hans. --Budclare2 02:16, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh, snap..... :( Poor Hans indeed..... Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 02:17, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

blood in the water

Probably renamed blood in the water (Cerulean) to blood in the water (crew), so you can put both crews on the same page (like Nefarious Miscreants). Then you can combine the disambig entries into one, too. --Budclare2 002:24, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Meh, there's been 2 other Crews with the same name and capitalisation sequence. :/ Neither of them were mine. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 13:12, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Triple posting, sorry

You can't use a single equals sign for a header, only "==" through "====". The page itself is already H1, so putting another H1 on the page makes a bit of a mess. (I would have just fixed it for you, but I'm afraid you're still editing.) --Budclare2 02:28, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Yeah.... Just wanted the hashtag to work... Oh, well.... Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 13:12, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

3rd Opinion Request

Budclare2 and I had a discussion: User talk:Chupchup#Green. Would you care to weigh in? Chupchup 03:49, 7 July 2017 (UTC)


Obsidian doesn't have any gems. I've heard the occasional rumor of a few gems turning up, but there's nowhere to sell them currently. No idea if it's permanent or if they just haven't added them yet. --Budclare2 01:46, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, since the Foraging offers that pop up on Obsidian have Gem prices included, I think it's safe to say there will be Gems spawning when the Devs activate them for Foraging. Gunnerfreak on Cerulean 13:17, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Not sure on that. They might just not have a way to easily remove references to gems on Foraging-related systems. --Sagacious (talk) 14:09, 13 October 2017 (UTC)