User talk:Lizzie

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 * July 2006

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Sample table
{| border=0 cellspacing=5 cellpadding=3 width=100%
 * - style="vertical-align:top;"
 * style=" width:25%;"|

Viridian



 * style=" width:25%;"|

Sage



 * style=" width:25%;"|

Midnight



 * style=" width:25%;"|

Cobalt



 * }

{| border=0 cellspacing=5 cellpadding=3 width=100%
 * - style="vertical-align:top;"


 * style=" width:25%;"|

Viridian



 * style=" width:25%;"|

Sage



 * style=" width:25%;"|

Midnight



 * style=" width:25%;"|

Cobalt



 * }

Table Formatting
As you can see, this is a one-row table with four cells. I put spaces between the cell declarations here for clarity, though I wouldn't on a real page. I know you've done some experimentation with tables, so I won't bore you with the wikicode. The border, cellspacing, cellpadding, and width are all straight-up HTML. They're really useful, so if you're not familiar with them, here's a crash course:
 * border on a table, the border attribute sets the width of the borders around the table as well as between the cells. I didn't want an external border, and I knew I'd want different border colors for each cell, so I shut them off
 * cellpadding sets the whitespace between the border of a cell and the contents of the cell
 * cellspacing sets the whitespace between the border of a cell and the border of the next cell over
 * width is pretty self-explanatory. I set it to make sure the table used the whole page, because I thought it'd look better that way.

If you see padding and margin settings inside an elements style="", those do pretty much the same as the cellpadding and cellspacing, respectively.

Row Formatting
The first time I fired up a preview, everything was centered vertically in the cells. That's very pleasing with text, so I put in the style="vertical-align:top;" on the row to make sure that every cell in that row would have its text aligned at the top.

Cell Formatting
So, since the table is only taking care of spacing, we need the cells to take care of color, borders, etc. I used CSS exclusively for this, rather than mixing it with plain HTML&mdash;I thought this was cleaner. So, a quick trip to YPPedia:Color and style reveals header and background colors and templates. Here's the contents of Viridian's background style: border: 1px solid #40826D; color: #000; background-color: #C6E3DA; In mediawiki, the table syntax is unintuitive. If you have only one | on a line, it knows that you only have text. If you have two || in a line, it takes the code between them and makes it HTML parameters, and everything after the second one is included as text. If you look closely above, you'll see that I put the cell formatting on one line and the content on the next line. It's just cleaner when you type it this way. Also, I wanted the columns to be even, horizontally, so I made sure to tell the browser that each one is 25% of the table wide (use : instead of = in CSS, and finish each term with a semicolon ). So, we have our style, and we know where to put HTML commands for a table cell, so the last thing to do is format it up | style="  width:25%; " | CELL CONTENT Most tables will have the ocean name in its own header cell, like on the fruit pages (e.g. Bananas). Antix had mentioned not knowing a lot of mediawiki code, though, so I wanted to keep it as easy as possible for him to edit. Leaving the ocean names as section headers meant that the edit links were still there, so he could maintain his own blockade list.

And that's a quick lesson in intermediate table formatting! Hope it's not too basic for you - I'd simply rather over-explain stuff that you know than assume something that you don't. --AtteSmythe 13:51, 28 July 2006 (PDT)

Crew / flag categories
Ahoy! It's rarely necessary to add a category tag for flags and crews (unlike for pirates). The infoboxes add the right categories automatically. The only time we add them manually is for category sorting for names that start with "A", "The", and similar situations. Thanks for the hard work adding new pages, though. It's really appreciated. --Barrister 13:35, 3 August 2006 (PDT)

no nose event
I was just thinking... wouldn't it be quite cool for events like this to have their own page, with the winning entries/ runners up included? Forgive me if this has already been discussed, or is already implemented! Figured it never hurts to ask. Tried to post on the no nose page as I'm sure everyone saw in the recent changes.. lets just say its a Monday and not hassle me too much, eh? --Lizzie 07:48, 7 August 2006 (PDT)

Oh noes! Where's my nose?
Contests like this are generally archived in the Art: namespace. To create an article in that namespace, just preceed the name you'd like to use with Art:. Also, it's best to avoid using exclamation points and question marks in article titles as it can mess up how many browsers see the article.

You may want to take a look at, , or for some good formatting examples.--Fiddler 07:51, 7 August 2006 (PDT)

Re: Note to selves
Didn't take long before blanking number two occurred...nevermind - we tried :-) --Sagacious (talk) 07:33, 16 August 2006 (PDT)
 * Just dump the entire talk page code onto a new sub-article like User talk:Lizzie/Archive1 and then link to it from the top of your talk page. There's no particular special way to do it :-) --Sagacious (talk) 08:50, 16 August 2006 (PDT)

Darkviper Page Updates and Changes
I was unaware of the edit tag, as I started editing about 30mins before you started, so our updates clashed... Thank you for the tidying up, but you have changed some aspects which other people have on their pages? Thanks adding my Crew info for all the oceans, as I wasn't able to check them, because I am in work, and Y!PP gets stopped by the firewall >:S

I have searched the wiki and I cant find any conventions to say that I cant you the outline box around the Pirate infobox? if there is a page, I would like to read it please. :) and if there are other pages like that that owuld be of help I would be very grateful. the reason for the multiple ssaves is that this syste, has an unreliable internet browser, which randomly crashes. Salmon has also edited the page after you did, to correct a mistake that was made by yourself during your update. this was the change of 'THE smugglers guild' As that is the name of the crew. The crew page is currently being created by Salmon. Thanks again for the help. --Dark viper 02:54, 24 August 2006 (PDT)

Thanks
Ahoy, Thanks for the update info' just shouted across the office at salmon about what you said about the link :D /me goes to do some wiki editing, I mean work, yeah thats right... >.< Thanks for those url's they will come in VERY handy, always wondered how to do that, as I knew it was webpage. /me uses it for his evil plans to take over the world!!

/me runs away...

--Dark viper 03:26, 24 August 2006 (PDT)

Nomination
You're nominated! Please go to YPPedia:Requests_for_adminship/Lizzie and let us know if you accept, then fill in the questions at the bottom. --Guppymomma 22:04, 7 November 2006 (PST)

Promoted!
You're now an admin. Use the powers for the good of piratekind! ;) Let any of us know if you have questions.  --Guppymomma 18:41, 14 November 2006 (PST)

Help! lol
Hi hi! I was wondering if you knew why the "enamel-based" colour table has a whole lot of extra boxes underneath it on the Furniture palette page... It worked in the preview, and then went weird :S. The cloth one worked, and they are the same! Please help silly Adrielle, lol. I was also wondering whether I should just put that table once - under a heading like 'cloth or enamel based' rather than having it twice, lol. Adrielle =) 09:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I just tried that and it looks way nicer. The table is working, too =D. If I did it wrong, you can revert it back to what it was before =) Adrielle =) 09:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * That looks great to me! Nice job. Sorry I wasn't here earlier, but looks like I'm surplus to requirements anyway ;) --Lizzie 11:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)