Talk:Trinket

I'm going to be merging all the trinket articles into this one, as it sounds as though they don't merit their own page each. It could take a few minutes. 20:54, 20 October 2005 (PDT)

Guppy uploaded a nice trinket inspection image, but I'm not sure where to put it. Any ideas where it could go? 22:08, 20 October 2005 (PDT)

Redirects for individual trinkets
I'm thinking it might be handy to have redirects for individual trinket names to here. I looked at the tournament board on Viridian a bit ago, saw a clam shell was the prize, and briefly went "what the heck is that?" and was about to search for Clam Shell, when it occurred to me to check the trinket page. --Thunderbird 21:02, 29 October 2005 (PDT)
 * It's certainly not a bad idea. Though, to be consistent, we might need redirects for all the furniture and clothing, too. =)  21:10, 29 October 2005 (PDT)
 * If you do create the redirects, use --Barrister 21:24, 29 October 2005 (PDT)

Broken images?
Anyone know why all the trinket images don't work? Or is it cause no images have been uploaded yet?
 * Images aren't on all the webservers, but at least one has them. Don't go re-uploading the images, they're all in the wiki database (you'd see red links if an image was missing). --Thunderbird 12:05, 9 November 2005 (PST)

Zombie Trinkets
Does anyone think that the zombie trinkets should get their images placed here, even if it's just one per trinket type (Golden Brain, Silver Heart, ect.)?--Zyborg22 18:25, 9 November 2005 (PST)
 * Probably, yes. I grabbed all the game images before the Halloween release went poof.   19:08, 9 November 2005 (PST)
 * Yep, they should be here. In a section for special event trinkets perhaps. --Guppymomma 19:26, 9 November 2005 (PST)

Gemstone Ring
Viridian, and possibly the other oceans, has been running a tournament called "Love at first drop," and one of the prizes in the pool was a "gemstone ring." I could be wrong on the name, but I'm pretty sure it's not on the Trinket page. It's in the middle of 4.png at Puzzle Pirates\rsrc\bundles\media\yohoho-general\media\yohoho\icons\items\trinkets but I didn't want to add it myself in case there was something I was missing. Darkaardvark 16:47, 29 November 2005 (PST)
 * Thanks, it's added now. Give a holler if the name is wrong. --Guppymomma 20:17, 29 November 2005 (PST)
 * I can now confirm 100% certain that the name is correct. Thanks for adding it. :) --Darkaardvark 14:28, 30 November 2005 (PST)

Text on trinkets
Has anybody collated a list of trinkets that can be inscribed to add to the info here?
 * Nope, feel free to start compiling info :) All we know is what Eury's put in about trinkets & text. --Guppymomma 07:59, 10 December 2005 (PST)
 * The main issue is probably how to display the info. My thought would be to add inscribable and player inscribable to the appropriate trinkets (such as I just did for the fruitcake). Thoughts? --Thunderbird 19:12, 10 December 2005 (PST)
 * That looks fine to me. :) Never sure if I should edit or wait for more opinions.. At any rate, add Bands and Lilies (and probably the Lily too, but I'm not completely certain about that one) to the player inscribable list. --Zava 23:01, 10 December 2005 (PST)
 * Might it get a bit messy with adding text? Perhaps just a * for the inscribable ones with an info note down the bottom?

18^2 != 256
I'm sorry. I have no idea how on earth I booched something so simple. --Piplicus 07:19, 2 January 2006 (PST)

Inscriptions
Does anyone know which trinkets are and aren't inscribeable? Would a list of such benefit the article? (Wondering if it's worth compiling) --Teeg 19:07, 19 January 2006 (PST)


 * I think winter decorations and fruitcakes can be inscribed by players, and the rest of the trinkets can only be inscribed if previously inscribed on by an OM (and only once). --Yaten talk 20:41, 19 January 2006 (PST)


 * Err, yeah, that's not very clear. Reading this might help instead: http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=523162#523162 --Yaten talk 20:42, 19 January 2006 (PST)


 * The Palace Shoppe on Ice claims that the two rings in it can be inscribed, one would assume by the players themselves. Don't have the poe to buy one right now though. --Thunderbird 21:06, 19 January 2006 (PST)


 * Yeah, but looking at the link it seems to suggest that only winter trinkets can be inscribed by anyone other than OMs... so unless I'm magical, the daisies I won off Luckysun should be uninscribable from my end, but I was able to. Makes me think and question and all that other fun stuff that causes massive screaming and groans from parley and game design. Guess I'll post something up in TTQA --Teeg 21:11, 19 January 2006 (PST)


 * Problem solved. When an OM creates a trinket, they get the same inscribe prompt and input box that players do.  How do I know this?  I asked.  It appears that auto-inscribe only happens from automated tournies and skellie fights.  Coal and Parrot feather have no space for a note, and the fruitcake can be inscribed multiple times.--Fiddler 21:30, 19 January 2006 (PST)


 * Not really :) I know for a fact that Shells are uninscribeable on a player's end as well, which makes me wonder. (I'd also assume that things like the OM dollies can't be inscribed by players, and so on.) --Teeg 09:31, 20 January 2006 (PST)


 * I won a handkerchief in an automated Grog Guzzling tourney. It cannot be inscribed.  --Barrister 11:44, 20 January 2006 (PST)


 * If it can be inscribed, it can be inscribed by a player if an OM or the automatic tourney or the skellies didn't do it first.--Fiddler 11:59, 20 January 2006 (PST)

From Eury:

Inscribable:
 * All flowers
 * All dolls
 * All ribbons
 * All rings
 * Parrot painting prize
 * Winter Ornaments
 * Fruitcake (re-inscribable)
 * Skulls (but as they're only won from skellis, they're all auto-inscribed)

Uninscribable:
 * Coal
 * Handkerchief
 * Parrot feather

Unknown:
 * Bone
 * Clam Shell
 * Conch Shell
 * Knobby Coral
 * Mirror
 * Nautilus Shell
 * Sand Dollar
 * Spiky Coral
 * Starfish

--Fiddler 11:59, 20 January 2006 (PST)


 * Methinks I'll move this to my sandbox so I don't keep cluttering this page up. Thanks for yer help :) --Teeg 14:03, 20 January 2006 (PST)

All finished. inscribability is noted on the main page with the odd exceptions also noted.--Fiddler 12:21, 1 February 2006 (PST)

Valentine trinkets
Three new trinkets are on Ice: Teddy Bear (10k), Valentine Card (1k), and Valentine Card (5k). All are inscribable. --Barrister 04:11, 1 February 2006 (PST)

Winter is a wonderful time
I hate to nitpick, but the "winter ornaments" were released during the Southern Hemisphere's summer. I can't seem to find a good way to describe their situation, though. --Barrister 12:28, 1 February 2006 (PST)
 * It was "winter" in game though with the snow. --Guppymomma 12:51, 1 February 2006 (PST)
 * Touchè! --Barrister 13:11, 1 February 2006 (PST)

Lump of Coal?
Coulda sworn that the coal was a Christmas/Winter trinket. --Teeg 04:58, 16 February 2006 (PST)
 * Nope! It's just a regular trinket.  --Eurydice 08:30, 16 February 2006 (PST)

Reorganization?
So with Fight Club, four or five new brigand kings, and the usual trickle of new trinkets this page is about to get very long. I think it's time we started planning a re-organization.

My initial thought is that the sub-headings under "Limited Edition Trinkets" could be reduced in vertical size. Either A) we right-align all the tables so that the text is to their left (as I've currently done) or B) we spread the tables out horizontally to match the regular trinkets up above.

I'm mainly looking at the Halloween trinkets, as that information is repeated on the Zombie Apocalypse page. Perhaps turning those into a horizontal table and slightly expanding the information avaialble on the event page? This approach could work well for the Fight Club event as well.

It appears that the brigand king trinkets may be colorable, so either we can put the bulk of the information in the brigand king article or we can create a seperate page for each, as most of the colorable trinkets have.

Any further thoughts on keeping this page managable?--Fiddler 12:36, 1 April 2006 (PST)

New formatting?
Hopefully this is the correct way to say this. I recently reloaded the trinket page to find that most of the trinket images are now right formatted on the page. With my large widescreen monitor this is highly annoying. The graphics are no longer underneath the text description, and I must shift my sight right-left-right-left as I go down the page. It was much better left justified. 2cents. --Kraggard 3:12, 3 Apriil 2006 (PST)

Which can be put in Display Cases
It does not appear to me that the sea battle ranking trophies can be put in display cases, leastwise, I can't seem to get mine into my display case. Can someone else confirm that for me? I suspect, given the situation with the halloween contest ones that the fight club ones won't either. Obviously at very least we can wait a couple of hours on that one. But it seems likely that we're going to need to change the portion about which trinkets can and cannot be put in display cases. --KeithIrwin 20:09, 3 April 2006 (PDT)
 * If it's untradable, it can't be placed in a display case (the skulls used to be like that). The Zombie Apocalypse trinkets, the Fight Club trinkets, the SB trinkets, and I believe the Brigand King trinkets all fall into this category. --Thunderbird 20:33, 3 April 2006 (PDT)
 * I believe what Thunderbird said is the case (sorry). However, according to The List, having untradable trinkets be "caseable" is something in the works (see here)... --Emufarmers 20:41, 3 April 2006 (PDT)

Brigand King Trinkets
Gretchen Goldfang will give an Ivory Toothpick. Also, BK trinkets work like skulls in that they are tradeable, but only the winner can use it in a portrait. --Fannon 21:16, 10 April 2006 (PDT)
 * Shodan won against Gretchen, but didnt get the promised Wooden Amulet. Screenshot. Digging through the media files, looks like it might be third from the left in 11.png? --Zava 12:42, 12 April 2006 (PDT)
 * I am probably going to try and re-do the brigand king trinket table. Complexicated and such. I think each king should have a column, with the trinkets+labels below each. --Sagacious (talk) 11:58, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * I agree it needs to be reformatted. At 5 trinkets per, I suggest rows for each king, rather than columns.  Example:


 * 1) "Admiral Finius"
 * 2) His trinkets in one row
 * 3) "Barnabas the Pale"
 * 4) His trinkets in one row
 * 5) "Gretchen Goldfang"
 * 6) Her trinkets in one row
 * I tried a different format. With 5 trinkets each - it could look nice. I'll also mock-up that format Barrister. --Sagacious (talk) 12:21, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Ok - is this what you were thinking? --Sagacious (talk) 12:32, 24 May 2006 (PDT)

The "30px" is making all the trinkets blurry. These are small pictures to begin with. I'd rather see them full-size. --Barrister 16:44, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * This way, when we have all the trinkets, they all fit nicely in the table. For now, it's ok to drop the 30px. --Sagacious (talk) 18:26, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Can someone grab the recently uploaded BK trinkets and add them to this page? Thanks!  --Barrister 01:11, 15 August 2006 (PDT)
 * I think I have now also added them all to the trinket templates, as well. I've also standardized the ones for which we have no colors, so if anyone gets a screenie of a properly-colored brigand king trinket, they can just edit the image without having to touch the nasty templates. --AtteSmythe 10:01, 15 August 2006 (PDT)

Individual Images
We have individual images for each of the familiars. Is there value in having the same for all the trinkets? It'd be kind of nice to display the images of the various trinkets on the pirate pages. For example, I have an aqua starfish. I know this would be a ton of small images, however, especially for two-color trinkets like handkerchiefs. --Barrister 23:14, 29 May 2006 (PDT)
 * It'd be a nice way to spruce up pirate pages; it could be a bit of work to set up, but I'm sure someone's willing to do it. :) I don't see any particular problem with having a lot of little images, as long as we got them all tagged properly...Unless they would eat up an inordinate amount of server space. Would they?  Beyond that, do you think any trinkets the pirate owns should be displayable, or should only ones he or she won be permissable? (I suppose that would be unfeasable anyway, since we can't really tell whether someone won a starfish, or bought it off somebody else, though in auto-inscribed trinkets it might be easier).  Either way, we probably don't need to upload all 324 iterations of the parrot paintings award. :P (Actually, on a fairly tangental note, it looks like a fancy display of all the colors for that is missing on its page.)  More seriously, would we be uploding individual images for all 648 winter ornament designs, or would this only be for non-purchasable (from the palace shoppe) trinkets?  Anyway, I like the idea. --Emufarmers 21:39, 30 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Some people have, quite literally, dozens of trinkets. I know someone who owns no fewer than 24 fruitcakes. We'd need a means of controlling how many you can include. --Ponytailguy 21:42, 30 May 2006 (PDT)


 * It's a cute idea. Doing the familiar images was a bear.  I'd suggest using a naming & image tagging convention similar to what was done with familiar images. Trinkets are pretty small images, I don't think that even 24 fruitcakes would be such a big deal (don't those come in only one color?).  --Guppymomma 21:45, 30 May 2006 (PDT)


 * Fruitcakes only have one colour, yes, but unless we have limits in place, he'd be allowed to have all 24 on her page, which, even at three to a row, is quite a lot of rows. --Ponytailguy 21:47, 30 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Allow a graceful way to show the image and add x24 (or whatever number) underneath? --Zava 21:50, 30 May 2006 (PDT)


 * You can fit at least 18 in a row with the inventory box around it. More without that box.  Zava's idea sounds good.  Any wordy bits about where things were won or whatever could be done in text. --Guppymomma 21:52, 30 May 2006 (PDT)
 * A few more thoughts: I was definitely thinking about limiting this to trinkets the player had won. That eliminates all the cards, rings, and the bear.  And, yeah, a player who won 24 fruitcakes would just put "x24".  Let me think on this a bit more, but it does seem the general reaction is positive.  --Barrister 21:55, 30 May 2006 (PDT)


 * Uh, another technical snag: How does one verify that someone has a particular trinket? Unlike portraits, you can't just look on the webpage, or even /who the person: You have to meet him or her in person.  We'd want to consider how we verify this, something which could be even further complicated by the easy "tradibility" of trinkets.  This isn't necessarily enough of a problem to sink the whole idea, but we'll need to have a way of addressing it.  The same is even more true if you're talking about it only being things you actually won (unless it's just defined as "winnable trinkets" rather than allowing only ones that particular person won).  This idea sounds more neat the more I think about it, but it's also looking like it could be filled with pitfalls.  We'd best tread carefully. --Emufarmers 22:24, 30 May 2006 (PDT)
 * We're talking about trinkets that the pirate won, like Barrister says? Not ones that were purchased/given/traded for a firstborn child. That way even if they do trade it away later, it can still be listed (like familiars). No real way to verify it, you're right. People do seem fairly trustworthy though - there's no easy to way to verify a familiar win either if nobody who cares about the wiki was paying attention to the tournament. Asking "Hey, who won ____?" gets me a LOT of blank looks *grin*. In the end, we may have to grit our teeth and just trust that guy that says he won Some Neat Thing, even though he's behaving like a bratty 10 year old. (Some of those kids are damn fast, btw. I know a 10 year old who won an octopus.) Trying to verify everyone's trinkets isn't a job I want, that's for sure. :D --Zava 03:49, 31 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Pretty much what Zava said is what I think. We also can't officially verify if someone was formerly the captain of a crew or monarch of a flag, but still allow for that claim to fame without being extremely stringent.  As long as the article's well written according to the new standards, I really don't feel like we need to verify all the trinkets for normal pages.  --Guppymomma 06:00, 31 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Would it be possible to allow a short description of the event where the trinket was won? I got to thinking about bakeoffs and such - the runner-up prizes are just ribbons, but "Second place in Thingamagummy Bakeoff" is worth noting. --Zava 03:54, 31 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Bump - So did we have a concensus to do it or not? Gail 05:55, 9 July 2006 (PDT)

Individual trinket pages
Is there any point to having a special page for trinkets that can't be recoloured? If there's a table showing the range of colours then, yes, I can see a purpose. (Or if it was awarded for some special reason, etc.) But if it just says "This is a trinket. Here is a picture of it. Isn't that swell?"... well, it'll never be more than a two-line stub, will it? :-/ --Ponytailguy 12:36, 5 July 2006 (PDT)

Bold text in inscriptions
Is this an OM-only thing, or is there a way for players to make an inscription bold in places? --Thunderbird 18:45, 8 July 2006 (PDT)
 * Yep,  and  work, as well as : *grin* I tried almost every html tag I could remember. Sadly, the blink tag does not work.  --Zava 19:04, 8 July 2006 (PDT)

Bold, italic, underline, strike, font size, and I think font color also, all work on trinkets. --Piplicus 07:00, 9 July 2006 (PDT)

More trinkets
This page needs to be updated with the Foot Brawl trinkets. --Barrister 19:26, 12 July 2006 (PDT)
 * Done. --Sagacious (talk) 19:53, 12 July 2006 (PDT)

Redoing trinket images
All inventory icon images are 36x39 (at least, those items that can be equipped - I've not checked potions). I'm recutting the pngs in the trinkets directory, but I wouldn't mind some help in the form of a program that'll automatically chop images into specified sizes. I've got through 3.png done, but not uploaded. --AtteSmythe 00:25, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
 * Have you checked them in IE6 to make sure there aren't transparency issues? (I'd check, but YPPedia is blocked from work and I have to roundabout lynx to get here sans pics.) If there are, don't upload any more.  I can convert 'em to work in IE6 if you give them to me. --Guppymomma 10:23, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
 * Yes - I've taken to editting with two browsers open, alas. I've been saving them in GIMP with the 'save transparent color information' deselected, which seems to work. I certainly wanted to make sure that you wouldn't have to come through and reconvert them all. ;) Speaking of this, saving all the recolored combinations of trinkets is probably too many files, aye? heh. --AtteSmythe 12:13, 3 August 2006 (PDT)
 * Ha! You're just as deluded and insane as the rest of us.  So far we haven't individually done the different trinket colors because we haven't thought of a specific use for them that would be worth the effort.  Yaten & I did all the familiar ones, splitting the parrot pile between the two of us.  If you think it would be something that folks would be interested in putting on their pages & upkeeping, I'd say go for it one chunk at a time. Glad to hear the transparency thingee is good, just wanted to make sure your suffering was minimal :)  --Guppymomma 13:16, 3 August 2006 (PDT)

Valentines Trinkets
I've added the new Valentines trinkets but then realized there is a lot more work needed for those that can be coloured. I'm not sure if what I did should just be reverted or whether this can be used as a starting point for getting the trinkets fixed. --Cedarwings 00:34, 15 February 2007 (PST)

New Trinkets (Cake, cookies, etc...)
I noticed that the trinkets are displayed on the page, but the linking to the image file for pages does not work yet! --Tabzsheff 15:42 03 April 2007 (PST)
 * Someone will have to go through all the color combinations and make the tables for that, so that it can also be added to the My Trinkets template. Any idea who did it before? --Arminius 16:28, 3 April 2007 (PDT)


 * Not a clue, if I was provided with the infomation and details on whats required etc.. I would love to have a try at adding these new trinket color combinations! --Tabzsheff 17:39 03 April 2007 (PDT)


 * Har, found it! Here's the thread. Maybe put in a request there. --Arminius 17:53, 3 April 2007 (PDT)
 * Ha, That looks extremely complicated, not sure if i have the know how or ability to produce that sort of quality. Mabey if I tried (to start) with trinkets that don't have hundreds of combinations. :D --Tabzsheff 17:58, 3 April 2007 (PDT)

Okay, I am swamped with rl work, but if someone can make a list of the new trinkets that require color tables along with whether it's a single color trinket or a two color trinket (and if you happen to know the list of colors or if it's the standard set) that would be helpful. I'll then see if I can convince Eury the wikiOM to show me what they look like for screenshotting purposes. Then either I'll find a bit of time to make the color image or give you instructions on how to do it. After that we'll see about the template coding. --Guppymomma 06:51, 5 April 2007 (PDT)


 * Just copied the new trinkets I added to the table. I'll work out the details on medals and pins as well today and post it next. Could someone not broke check if pies and cakes can be inscribed? (My guess is yes) --Arminius 08:43, 5 April 2007 (PDT)

New trinkets (Medals and Pins)
Alrighty, got your detailed list for medals and pins as well. --Arminius 10:01, 5 April 2007 (PDT)

Medals
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Pins
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Ship medal
Apparently we have Ship medals... as offered @ http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1044886#1044886

Given they are as good as confirmed in the game, but not yet here... should the info be included or left out for the moment?--Therack 22:01, 27 April 2007 (PDT)
 * They are now confirmed ingame. Angaragot the gold one, Strength the silver and Kinocha the bronze. All on Midnight--Kinocha 11:37, 28 April 2007 (PDT)

Puzzled Fish Trinkets
GCPP award winners are starting to notice Puzzled Fish trinkets in their inventory. The odds are there are 9 of these from round 1, and will be more with each additional round. see This image which shows three of them.

Is it okay to add the trinkets for the Puzzled Fish? With LordKalvan's 3 trinkets and another 3 from me, I think we'd have a pretty good starting set. --Jdnx429 00:04, 28 July 2007 (PDT)

I added the trinkets for the Puzzled Fish trinkets. I got some help from Bia for the remaining proposals. All nine Puzzled Fish are now shown.--Jdnx429 23:40, 18 September 2007 (PDT)

Azarbad's Trinkets
Just to keep up with the new stuff coming in. I'll upload the pictures and add the entries tomorrow if no one else has done it by then. --Arminius 21:41, 14 June 2007 (PDT)
 * Exotic Card (2000 poe, 18 colors)
 * Exotic Coffee (5000 poe, 18 colors) - no incription
 * Bangled Bracelet (10000 poe, 3 metallic colors)


 * I uploaded the pictures and description to the trinket pictures table. Can anyone please confirm if you can/can't inscribe them? Cheers. --Arminius 10:26, 18 June 2007 (PDT)

Somewhat major change to brigand king trinkets - yellow added
Okay, due to some screenshots from Hawkings and then from Cheshi, I bugged Eurydice more thoroughly and she has discovered that there has been a new color added to all BK trinkets: Yellow. I'll add the yellow box to the end of the trinket color charts for filling in and such. Just to make it easier to track what colors have been added to the images, go to User:Guppymomma/trinket images. --Guppymomma 20:45, 6 July 2007 (PDT)
 * Barrister's reporting that Ceph said it's just Azarbad. However, it sounds like from Eury that there exists the ability to do yellow ones of the others.  In that case, just watch out in the future in case they turn on yellow for any of the others. --Guppymomma 08:39, 8 July 2007 (PDT)
 * I can create yellow versions of old BK trinkets, but they don't naturally occur in the game. If we see any showing up, something is wrong!  --Eurydice 19:04, 8 July 2007 (PDT)

Jolly Roger Pin
I have a trinket that is not displayed on the trinket page, a Jolly Roger Pin.

Is there any way it can be included in the page?

/Rubbaduck

Vain and proud of if


 * What trinket page, exactly? --Arminius 23:55, 3 December 2007 (PST)


 * Ehrr....the page this discusison is about? rubbaduck 18:23, 14 December 2007 (CET)


 * This page mentions 972 color combinations for it. Are there any known silver or bronze exemplars ? Having at least one image of each of those should be enough to "fake" the color charts for all 972 combinations. --Alfwyn 09:52, 21 March 2008 (PDT)

New Trinkets
It appears as though there are some new trinkets coming out of Atlantis. Here is an image of one of them. This was from Sydneyb on the Cobalt Ocean. Apoy on the Cobalt Ocean has put up this one and another in the Cobalt Bazaar forum for auction. -- Cedarwings (talk) 09:05, 6 February 2008 (PST)
 * I have loaded all the new Atlantis trinkets onto the wiki. I posted the cleanest versions of the images I could find and created an Atlantis Reward section since at this point at least they look like they are available from Atlantis only.  My recommendation is to eventually replace them with Atlantean colored versions but so far the only clean version I have personally been able to get a screen of is the Atlantean Band.  I'm pretty regular in running trips to Atlantis so I should be able to update the images in the near future assuming someone doesn't beat me to it. ;-) --Kgarrett1969 04:57, 18 February 2008 (PST)

Spring Colors (and color charts)
Now there are trinkets with the new colors that don't come in atlantean I see two options for the colorcharts:
 * 1) use the '18x1 primary' color scheme and leave the atlantean spot blank; add the new colors just at the end for the 18x18 schemes since there are no atlantean two color trinkets
 * 2) create a new 'enamel x1 primary' color scheme; and for consistency 'enamel x enamel' ones for the two color trinkets.

I think with the 2nd option it would still be easier to add the new colors at the end, instead of sorting the colors alphabetically. Alphabetical sorting would make it hard to add another color, since inserting a color in the middle would only work if all color charts are updated at once. --Alfwyn 09:44, 26 March 2008 (PDT)
 * Which trinkets are available in the spring colors, but not in Atlantean? I'm trying to create the corresponding trinket palette page now.  --Barrister 12:20, 26 March 2008 (PDT)
 * So far I know of rose, longstem rose, lily, daisy, orchid, parrot feather, ribbon. Perhaps they can be generated atlantean too, but I would think this is limited to trinkets that can be gained from Atlantis. --Alfwyn 12:25, 26 March 2008 (PDT)
 * Thanks. I'll need to give that some thought for the various palettes.  --Barrister 13:10, 26 March 2008 (PDT)
 * I guess I'll go with the first variant, leaving a blank spot. For two color trinkets leaving two blank lines would probably look odd, so better not there. As for the palettes, there seems to be a cloth with atlantean and a cloth without atlantean one (probably only different by what is actually given out, like with ring colors), but no idea about a good name for them. --Alfwyn 11:00, 29 March 2008 (PDT)
 * Yep. There are trinkets available in mint, for example, but that won't ever be available to players in atlantean blue.  And there are trinkets like the corals which are available in both mint and atlantean blue.  So, there are two color sets there that need names.  I'm mulling it over now.  --Barrister 13:53, 29 March 2008 (PDT)

Pirate Ticket
So, who's got an opinion on where it should go? Image is here: Image:Trinket-Pirate_Ticket.png --Guppymomma 14:43, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, it should go on my booty panel. =D But seriously though, maybe in the "No Longer Available" section? Make a new section? --Belthazar451 15:02, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree on the "No longer available section". Even though I'm wondering if pirates that get this trinket get to keep it once they are given the new familiar. If they have to trade it in it would be a waste of really nice game art. Anyway, for me another sub-header in the "No longer..." section would do good for it. UPDATE: The trinket is given back to players after they get the new familiar with a new inscription on them, so it's staying in game. Other thing we need to find out if the trinket is tradeable... after they are reinscribed--Cecidrake 16:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It should goes to "No longer available section - Other trinkets". --Yaypuzzlez 19:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Sword Pin Trinket
I found new type of trinket, sword pin:

--Aragoso 3:39, 1 November 2008 (PDT)
 * Nice. Where was it when you saw it? I've added the image to the trinket page, but it might be good to have a bit more information before we make the trinket's own page. --Belthazar451 11:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I Saw it on Hunter, its from competition, The inscribtion says: "Congratulations to XXX for winning good/incredible pize in the Ships Ahoy! competition on September 29, 2008!"

look at this: http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=111105&offset=0

--Aragoso 4:23, 1 November 2008 (PDT)
 * Ah, thanks for that link. I'm vaguely wondering whether it's fair to assume that it exists with the same-coloured ribbons as the other pins... might need some admin input on this one. =) --Belthazar451 12:16, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Viewing one-at-a-time
I noticed that the statement "Trinkets can be seen by others, one-at-a-time.." is invalid after testing it out on two alternative pirates. I did not see any remark about its alteration in the Release Notes, so I would like to ask if anyone disagree with changing this? --Sharktailz 14:58, 5 February 2008 (HST)
 * It's still the case that only one trinket may be equipped at any one time. Or did you mean that the trinkets can't be seen by others? --Belthazar451 01:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I suppose I miscomphrehended the statement. I assumed that it meant only one player may view the trinket on display at a time. Never mind!  My mistake.  --Sharktailz 14:55, 9 Febraury 2008 (HST)

Trinket order list
Would a trinket order list be useful? Short working example: Pirates collecting trinkets may eventually notice that their trinkets are ordered and not at all random. The major groupings appear to be that of General trinkets, Atlantis, and Cursed Islands Each trinket appears in the list in the order it would in the pirate's Booty-Trinket tab, and separate colors of a trinket are subdivided still into the color palette of the trinket, meaning you can identify the color of a trinket by the trinket's position if you have other trinkets of the same kind, but of other colors, separating similar colors. The list is as follows: General: Skull Zombie Hand Sand Dollar Starfish knobby coral spiky coral clam shell nautilus shell Atlantis: broken trident tine Archelon Egg Atlantean Band Atlantean Brooch Subaquatic Pin Curious Roe Sponge Fan Sunken Tablet Triketos Scrimshaw Cursed Isles: Beaded Fetish Hemlock Powdered Lizard tail Spell Scrap Talon Fetish Jar of Fog Anyone wanting to build on it or add it in go ahead. Well I evidently fail at wiki code and don't know how to do this too well.
 * I second this idea, though on a separate page. Has it been done before? Jlh0605 10:46, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

Warning OM
Is the "do not ask OM for ~" really necessary? --Ironthead 12:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. You'd be surprised how often they get asked for one. The inclusion of that line stems from an oceanmaster adding it back when the article was first created. --Sagacious (talk) 15:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'm sure they get asked often, but I don't really think this would help but okay, thanks for answering. --Ironthead 10:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Trading Post Redemption Value
Should we start including the PoE redemption value for trinkets in the trading post? (The value that is discounted from the base price of an item you're trying to trade for). Rhoaleper 23:33, 20 July 2011 (PDT)
 * The value varies widely depending on how many of them have been traded in lately. I guess if the prices generally stay in the same rough areas, you could say "high value" or "low value" but you couldn't really be very specific otherwise. --Belthazar451 07:03, 21 July 2011 (PDT)
 * Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. Rhoaleper 18:30, 3 August 2011 (PDT)

Black Market Trinkets
Should we bother showing which ones come in which series? Jlh0605 10:45, 15 July 2012 (PDT)


 * Nope! If someone wants that info, they can visit the black market page which has it. Despite being from different "series", they're all still available, so no need to overdo the information dump. --Fannon 17:14, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

Other Dolls
The werewolf, skelly and zombie dolls are listed twice. I'm not sure if that's that bad, but we should either add the ghost doll to other dolls as well or just remove that category. Yeti doll is a furniture, so doesn't really belong to this page or does it belong to the doll category because it's a doll and can be held in portraits? --Aeternis 03:30, 23 January 2013 (PST)
 * Aye, I know they're listed twice. Part of the reason for that is a bit of uncertainty as to where they should go. However, I'm gonna now go "they're listed twice because there's two different ways to get them." Yep, yep. It's not a list of dolls, but of trinkets, so yeti doll's out. Ghost doll is an HS trinket. --Belthazar451 04:20, 23 January 2013 (PST)
 * Ghost doll is an HS trinket but it is a doll as well. And there are not 2 ways to obtain the other dolls, just the trading post. I'd either add the ghost doll to the other dolls part or remove that completely. --Aeternis 10:39, 23 January 2013 (PST)
 * First way, the seasonal way: trade candy trinkets for them. Second way: trade skull/fur/hand trinkets for them. And aside from the fact that it can be held in a portrait, there's nothing special about the ghost doll being a doll. --Belthazar451 12:41, 23 January 2013 (PST)
 * Yes, it is a doll, so it perfectly qualifies for being listed under 'other dolls'. http://yppedia.puzzlepirates.com/Trinket#Trick_or_Trinket already lists the new way of aquiring them. I'm just saying it's inconsistent to have 3 dolls doubled and another one not. --Aeternis 15:38, 23 January 2013 (PST)

Trinkets for I-Pad Release
I've got the "Red Apple" (non-tradable) trinket (as mentioned here). I presume these two new trinkets will need their own section, called "iPad release" (or something else snazzier), in the "No longer available" section, after "Grand Crafting Puzzle Project (Round 2)" and before "Other trinkets". Thanks. -- Franklincain (t/c)


 * Certainly something snazzier. Or maybe just dump them in the Miscellaneous category - not really worth making a whole new section for just two trinkets. --Belthazar451 01:49, 21 June 2013 (PDT)


 * Ah wait, these are trinkets, not trophies. Duh. There isn't a Miscellaneous category. Um... --Belthazar451 01:55, 21 June 2013 (PDT)

Has anyone gotten the "Silver Apple" trinket yet? -- Franklincain (t/c) 11:50, 22 June 2013 (PDT)


 * I did receive it. Would you like a screenshot of it? (Jpeg or PNG?)--Twittly 14:48, 22 June 2013 (PDT)


 * Just do a "/print" and upload that file somewhere onto the web, and link to it. Then I can just snag it.  Thanks!  -- Franklincain (t/c) 14:55, 22 June 2013 (PDT)


 * Here ya go. PM me if ya need anything else. :)--Twittly 15:06, 22 June 2013 (PDT)

OK, image uploaded. We'll need for someone having better graphics mojo to fix the transparency, but it works for now... I've just added these two new trinkets into the section for "Other (unavail.) trinks.". -- Franklincain (t/c) 15:36, 22 June 2013 (PDT)