User talk:Sagacious/Brigand King Trinkets

Overall, I like this. I would't assume that there are 5 for each BK, though. So I'd make the following changes: Ectoplasm gets a colspan of 5. Ivory pin and wooden amulet each get a colspan of 2. The unknown entry for Gretchen would get a colspan of 5 as well. --Barrister 12:56, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * With the exception of Admiral Finus, the other '4' Brigand Kings have 4 trinkets each at present (Media files show all). I considered uploading the missing ones for each king, but i'm not sure if others will approve of 'spoiling' any potential 'surprise'. --Sagacious (talk) 13:07, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * I'd prefer that you not show the "undiscovered" trinkets, but I don't know if others share that view. The only thing I'd fix is the repeated use of "Unknown".  It looks a little odd.  --Barrister 14:49, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * I've only been uploading the trinket image as I confirm that it's been discovered in the game. I have several completed color images for the BK trinkets and have only uploaded one so far in order to not spoil anything.--Fiddler 15:02, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * I saw no harm in uploading ones that have already been won. I've updated the table. No "Unknown" tags. --Sagacious (talk) 15:04, 24 May 2006 (PDT)

Another note: I preferred the format you just had on the trinket page as opposed to this one. The article is already getting rather long and I think that the prior format makes better use of horizontal space to cut down on the overall length of the page.--Fiddler 15:05, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Do you not think this new table is cool beans? I prefer it because it's neater. If we have columns like before, we'll always have one longer than the others. --Sagacious (talk) 15:09, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * I just said I didn't. To my eye it's messier because it wastes so much space to the right of the table.  The trinket article is already one of the longest articles in the YPPedia because of the large number of images that each need their own section and the lack of text to accompany them.
 * To be honest, I was hoping that we could leave the BK trinket information in the trinket article as minimal as possible to save space and to expand that information, much as you've done, on the Brigand King page and on the pages about each king themselves.--Fiddler 15:15, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Having just expanded the lists version with mock trinkets - I can just forsee it not looking neat. That idea was just an idea - but I'm now inclined to prefer the newer one. --Sagacious (talk) 15:30, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Took it a step further. The revised layout is far too vertical in my opinion; the 2nd edition layout takes up less page length in an article that's already too long.--Fiddler 15:38, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * But it takes too much width me thinks. I don't see much wrong with moving the trinkets to the BK page. --Sagacious (talk) 15:40, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * That's where were croassing arguments; I'm trying to conserve space on the main trinket page. On the seperate kings' page I'd be alright with either layout. We should keep a listing of them on the main trinket page as we've done with all the other trinkes, it should just be as small as possible.--Fiddler 15:43, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Then, we should drop the icons on the main trinket page, and just link them off to the king page with the full table. I don't see why they should be listed with icons twice - icons take up room. --Sagacious (talk) 15:47, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Nah, we should strive to visually represent all the trinkets on one consolidated page. If anything, drop the text on that page and provide links to the larger, expanded tables.  Looking at the abbreviated table I made, we should probably cut it into two rows.  If/when new brigand kings are introduced, the table can be shuffled to make room for new trinkets.--Fiddler 16:02, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Ok - fair enough. I shrunk the icons so they make the table a sensible length. Does that look ok? --Sagacious (talk) 16:04, 24 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Yeah. Though given the current rate of BK discovery, it might be a few months before we actually need to shrink the images.  Its good to know that it'll work though.--Fiddler 16:06, 24 May 2006 (PDT)