Template talk:Navigation Trinkets

I gotta admit I have my doubts about this one. Sure, it seems like a good idea in theory, but in practice it simply serves as a remote table of contents for the trinket article, and it makes the navboxes a bit too big. Maybe if you stick it in a show/hide box. And don't nest them inside each other. Or simply remove it. --Belthazar451 06:58, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I think your point is Template:Navigation Trinkets makes the other trinket navboxes too big. So I want to try to fix this template. Then, you mean "Remove this template from inside other navboxes", "Remove this template from other templates" or "This template need a proposed deletion"?--Piripuwa 09:26, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree Belthazar451. I changed other trinket navboxes. I stuck this template in a show/hide box :) But, I'm afraid, I might still misunderstand. Should I edit the template like User:Piripuwa/Sandbox/Template:Navigation_Trinkets? Anyway, I am tired of clicking a toc (or scrolling browser) after clicking a link to trinket article when I want to see a part of trinket article, and I guessed some of other pirates think same, so I made this. But if nobody else need this template please fix or delete it. --Piripuwa 13:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I was thinking more along the lines of this. It needs some fine-tuning to get text sizes and backgrounds looking right, but I haven't got the time at the moment - feel free to tweak it if you like. Incidentally, I also cleaned up the table code a bit in my version of this template - you only need to declare "valign" once per row, and "width" once per column, and I'm not too clear on what purpose the colon and space were serving at the start of the right-hand cells, so I took all of them out. On a related note, considering how many templates you're working on simultaneously, I think that changes that will affect all of them should be tried out before implementing across the board. --Belthazar451 08:02, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I see. Thanks for the advice and samples! Then... it seems that User:Belthazar451/Templates/Navigation_Trinkets does not work (Here is a result of my test). I think maybe it is because you removed spaces at the start of the right-hand cells. I think it need fix or change to more simple before other navigation templates implement it. Also, it seems the design used on condition that it isn't implemented separately by articles. I guess at least currently no articles need implement this directly, but I don't have any confidence. I'm planning to make a few more navigations (for atlantian trinkets, medals, and pins). I'd await a change of nav templates, and make new templates after that (If nobody still makes navigations at that time).--Piripuwa 16:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * What exactly do you mean "doesn't work"? What browser are you using? It looks perfectly fine to me in Firefox, Chrome, and IE - and that's saying something. And yes, I realise it's reliant on the fact that it's not used on its own - but what article would use this template on its own? The only article that might use it is the Trinket article itself, and that's already got a table of contents. --Belthazar451 22:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but a latter link in my previous comment had been wrong. User:Piripuwa/Sandbox/Template:Navigation_Trinkets is a result of my test. Please see it when you need to see how your template operates. And here is a summary :
 * When I write  , "Valentine Trinkets" string is hidden.
 * But when I write  , "Valentine Trinkets" string is available. (See also Lily with card)
 * The same can be said of links of "Medals", "Atlantis Rewards", "Beachcomber Trinkets".
 * OS / browsers I used:
 * Windows XP home / IE6, IE7, Firefox 3
 * Windows XP professional Servicepack3 / IE7, Firefox 3, Safari 5
 * Windows Vista bussiness / IE7, IE8, Firefox 3, Safari 5
 * --Piripuwa 13:27, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

(Undent) I fixed it - for some reason, it was assuming the first item was part of the cell formatting if it wasn't a link. I stuck in an extra pipe at the start of each line, so it should be working fine now. The next trick is now getting colors and sizes right. --Belthazar451 21:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I shall try to model this template on User:Belthazar451/Templates/Navigation_Trinkets.--Piripuwa 03:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Sentence case ??
This code uses labels which are not in sentence case. From what I was able to decipher, these labels are -ALSO- used as programmed triggers. Therefore, before anyone changes the labels/triggers into sentence case, we'd need a consensus that we do want to change this, as we'd also have to change every article using this template (and sub-templates) accordingly...

All I've changed to this point were the actual wiki-links, which were not working. I've fixed all of them, to the best of my ability to confirm. Just wanted to document the changes I've made as well as post this issue regarding future possible changes...

-- Franklincain (t/c) 10:04, 7 July 2012 (PDT)


 * Why exactly do the labels need to be changed? --Fannon 12:11, 7 July 2012 (PDT)


 * Actually, sentence case is not one of my things. (TOC is. ;-)  But I -do- know one of the others around here has taken on that particular mantle, so I wanted to document this potential issue -before- he dove in.  (Did not want to risk him accidentally stepping onto the minefield, as it were...)  -- Franklincain (t/c) 12:27, 7 July 2012 (PDT)