Template talk:Grand Crafting Puzzle Project

Just kickstarting another page to get more discussion going on the proposed submission template. --Jdnx429 21:00, 19 August 2006 (PDT)

Addition to template: help needed
One thing that we need to know from the players submitting their desgins is what kind of help they need. By this, I mean- do they have a programmer they know who is going to help program it? Do they have an artist who can help make the images for it? Or do they not have anything except for a desgin, and are looking for people? This would save a lot of forum posting like "Help, I have a design but need a programmer." All someone would have to do would be to look at their entry to see if they could help them. I wasn't sure exactly how to phrase this on the template, anyone else have any ideas? --Darkaardvark 12:25, 22 August 2006 (PDT)

Those aren't, surprisingly, entry issues. Entries are, ideally, just the design. This is a distillation process. Once they pass a certain point we'll work out a way to get it made. That's what we're here for. --Gotagota 18:12, 22 August 2006 (PDT)

Proposed Template Discussion
The stuff on the live 'template' page is eventually going to have to be actual wiki templating code, so I'm moving some of the proposal stuff back here. Eventually this page should be replaced with instructions on using the template, but for now may as well use it for discussion.

I found providing example data really useful in the E2 template instructions, so have filled some in here as if I was proposing Alchemistry as a new puzzle. It's probably not all 100% accurate to the actual Alchemistry, but should be close enough to get the general gist out there.

We'll get a wiki knowledgable person to write the actual template code once we think the fields list looks pretty complete. The template should also include a category designator so we get a category page that includes all of the entries. --Jacquilynne / Jasandrea 20:16, 22 August 2006 (PDT)

I'd suggest that submissions be made as sub-threads to the Grand_Crafting_Puzzle_Project page, named as Grand_Crafting_Puzzle_Project/Codename_Proposal.


 * I mentioned this on the main page talk, but I recommend a pseudo-namespace (GCPP:Proposal-codename) for proposal pages. It leads to shorter article titles and gives us  away to lump support pages (like the main article, the dimensions page, and others together).  Also, kudos on the fishname idea.  --Fiddler 21:15, 22 August 2006 (PDT)
 * That sounds great. I'm not a wiki expert by any stretch of the imagination, so anything I suggest is just because I've, you know, heard of doing that. I had guppymomma to do all the heavy lifting during E2 so I only picked up the basics. --Jacquilynne / Jasandrea 06:08, 23 August 2006 (PDT)

I'm putting together a proposal (codename: Barbel) but the section 'Known problems' comes out with title 'Known problem' - am I just doing something wrong, or is this a typo in the template (apologies if I'm just being ignorant)? Deathprog23 17:12, 28 August 2006 (PDT)
 * I've updated the template, it should read properly now. --Jdnx429 18:13, 28 August 2006 (PDT)
 * Cheers, looks fine now - though it would be neat if it could change from singular to plural depending on whether bullet points are used or not! Deathprog23 20:39, 28 August 2006 (PDT)
 * There's no easy way to do that with MediaWiki templating. Adding more complexity to the template for the sake of a cosmetic singular/plural heading isn't worth it with the wiki learning curve already required for folks wanting to propose an idea. --Guppymomma 21:23, 28 August 2006 (PDT)

Proposed fields in template

 * I added a field for discussion so that people can place a link to the proposal's discussion thread on the Crafting Puzzle board. I think I did it right, but let me know if I booched it. --Jdnx429 00:19, 24 August 2006 (PDT)
 * Good add, but maybe it could be up in the 'Contact' info box. Fiddler? --Jacquilynne / Jasandrea 07:17, 24 August 2006 (PDT)


 * The way the Additional Contact Info field is set up seems redundant; I don't see the point of having Additional Contact Info and then "Also contact:" right after it. Wouldn't it make more sense to eliminate one or the other? --Underlord(talk) 21:43, 28 August 2006 (PDT)

Suggested improvement re:discussion
I've got a suggested improvement to how people are pointed to the discussion thread. The template used in that one is browsable at template:Grand Crafting Puzzle Project/Proposal. Thoughts? --Ponytailguy 04:33, 31 August 2006 (PDT)