Talk:Yohoho! Puzzle Pirates Forums

Migration

 * We are currently migrating our forums to mvnForum due to the high load that phpBB was placing on our databases. I will post as more news becomes available.  --Lizthegrey 16:49, 10 August 2005 (PDT)
 * Getting there. --Lizthegrey 20:21, 10 August 2005 (PDT)
 * 98% there, doing final testing. There are likely to be bugs, please be understanding - we had to emergency implement this today after phpBB royally messed up all our servers, and I wasn't planning on having everything done for the migration until next week.  --Lizthegrey 20:58, 10 August 2005 (PDT)


 * And I thought it was your brilliant plan to move them right when everyone was oogling over the new houses...--Markozeta 21:42, 10 August 2005 (PDT)

They're up, and people are already tarting about the "ugly look". --Markozeta 23:19, 10 August 2005 (PDT)

Remember to change your bookmarks to the correct URL everyone. http://www.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/index Quickie icon guide: Closed envelope means unread messages, little square letter is if everything's been read in the thread, and red icons are for things with more than whatever you have set for "Posts Per page" in your profile. Default "Posts Per page" is 29 replies (30+ messages total per thread). --Guppymomma 23:24, 10 August 2005 (PDT)

New Forums and Wiki links
We've got a crapload of links to the forums that need to be updated to the new format. I'd say to hold off for now for a couple days until we're sure the forums are in their final form, but it should be towards the top of our list of cleanup projects. 23:41, 10 August 2005 (PDT)


 * Agreed on all counts. We've certainly got enough stuff to keep us busy in the meantime.  --Barrister 00:06, 11 August 2005 (PDT)


 * Liz just said she'll be doing the auto redirect in a couple of days. But it would be nice to fix them to streamline the process.--Markozeta 00:26, 11 August 2005 (PDT)


 * Luckily a lot of 'em are done using the fn template so we can track many of 'em down that way when the time comes. --Guppymomma 06:52, 11 August 2005 (PDT)


 * Caught all the ones on pages with fn templates. --Guppymomma 09:47, 11 August 2005 (PDT)

Here's Liz's quick guide to what the links have changed to. Sounds like we can go ahead and relink as they kept the phpbb database numbering for posts.

http://www.puzzlepirates.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=#### becomes http://www.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=####

http://www.puzzlepirates.com/community/viewtopic.php?p=****#**** becomes http://www.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=****#****

http://www.puzzlepirates.com/community/viewforum.php?f=# becomes http://www.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/listthreads?forum=#


 * Perhaps someone should at Rings HQ should add an Interwiki link template so we would type forumthread:1234, forumpost:1234, forum:1, etc . It could be quicker to type and would defiently get rid off the off-site link arrows.  I think we can treat forum content as at least semi-reliable content. --Mercano 15:54, 11 August 2005 (PDT)
 * It would require at least two templates unless they managed to get it to parse for a # to use the post lookup instead of the plain thread one. --Guppymomma 15:57, 11 August 2005 (PDT)
 * Note the URL for the forums changed again. --Mars 13:38 12 August 2005
 * But yay for the www one having an autoredirect! --Guppymomma 10:43, 12 August 2005 (PDT)
 * The other advantage of the interwiki link is that you would only have to change the link mapping and all the indvidual links would get fixed automagically (assuming none of the numerical IDs for threads and such get changed.)--Mercano 19:26, 13 August 2005 (PDT)

Would it be helpful to have a forum status report at the top of the main page in the interim? <> --HeyGabe 09:21, 13 August 2005 (PDT)

Missing
Not sure who can help here, but it seems everybody's maps of cobalt linked simply to the forum post. Does anybody have the links to the full maps of cobalt? --Markozeta 17:30, 10 August 2005 (PDT)


 * Here is a linky, courtesy of Google's cache: Diamondblade's Cobalt and Viridian XL map. --Faulkston 17:42, 10 August 2005 (PDT)


 * And I've been googling for hours. Well, Faulkstoning has finally hit the wiki... --Markozeta 17:46, 10 August 2005 (PDT)


 * FYI, there's missing route (Kuhio-Raven) and at least 1 mislabelled (for size) island in Diamondblade's version. --Barrister 21:56, 10 August 2005 (PDT)

Old content
Should we put these in the order they're listed on the forum index? --AtteSmythe 25 July 2005 23:42 (PDT)


 * No. That order (except for Announcements) is pretty random.  The question is what order is most useful to people looking at the Wiki.  Besides, Guppymomma and I both have an alphabetizing fetish anyway; if we see a list, we reorder it.  --Barrister 25 July 2005 23:47 (PDT)


 * Ah. It's late, and my pet names for the forums threw me off... I forgot to filter "The" and read Announcements without the Hear Ye!...--AtteSmythe 25 July 2005 23:51 (PDT)

Forum Fads and In-Jokes
Since there's an article about the forums themselves, why not have at least one article about the in-jokes and fads as well? Does anyone else think this is a good idea?--Zyborg22 17:17, 3 August 2005 (PDT)
 * Yes, there should be an article(s) about the meaning, history, and origin of things like T.I.T.S., "I think than there should be ___," "hand-waving freakoutery", and so on. AySz88^ - ^ 18:41, 10 August 2005 (PDT)
 * T.I.T.S isn't strictly YPP-based. It's been used on ifMUD, for one, long before it. Also, "Fandango will drop a chest in round 2", "! JEEZ I HATE THIS", Sea Cucumber, and the like. Crystallina 20:19, 10 August 2005 (PDT)
 * Less well known are o rly and Tedv Avatar. --Markozeta 21:57, 10 August 2005 (PDT)
 * O rly *definitely* isn't YPP-based. Have you even seen the owl picture? It's practically an Internet fad. Hmm... "Everyone is Thanos", "reveulition", etc.
 * We shouldn't forget the Boots of Bilging +5, the Eyevatars, Postcount ++, and the Advance Wars avatars. I think we should get started once the forums are up again.
 * Postcount ++ isnt just Y!PP, that is used many places. the ++ is from programming, meaning a single increase in a count. =)

Does it matter if it's only Y!PP? They're famous and define the forums, no? I think we should include the phrases that are not Y!PP only, as they are a part of the forum's history, and that's what the article is really about. --Markozeta 15:14, 11 August 2005 (PDT)

Stop talking about it here! Go type your comments at Forum fads and in-jokes. :) --Guppymomma 15:33, 11 August 2005 (PDT)

Forum List
The forums and their descriptions appear to be listed in alphabetical order..but wouldn't it make more sense to have them listed in the order they appear on the forum? I'll change it if no one objects. Robinson 10:18, 4 February 2006 (PST)
 * I think it was decided up there ↑ to leave them in alphabetical. --Gloraelin 11:07, 4 February 2006 (PST)
 * Ahh yes. Well I don't understand the reasoning.  Even if the forums are organized randomly, that's still how they're organized.. everywhere else. Robinson 16:18, 5 February 2006 (PST)

Old icons
Is it time to remove the phpBB icons? --Barrister 22:01, 29 March 2006 (PST)
 * I think they're still useful for folks who are only used to phpBB as it's one of the more popular forum software thingees. I'll take a look at the section later and see about rewording it as a general comparison rather than a YPP Forum migration comparison. --Guppymomma 05:29, 30 March 2006 (PST)

Searching
I might move searching to its own tutorial article so it doesn't get quite so lost in here. Any objections? --Guppymomma 05:36, 30 March 2006 (PST)


 * No objection. --Barrister 09:26, 30 March 2006 (PST)

New layout
We need to update this page for the new layout, but I need sleep right now. --Barrister 03:19, 8 April 2006 (PDT)
 * There you go. Hopefully, this will do.--Zyborg22 08:39, 10 April 2006 (PDT)
 * The individual ocean forums, as linked to right now, are just red links: Should we change them to actually link to the individual forums, or should we simply delink them altogether, and let the "Global" wiki links serve alone? --Emufarmers 20:19, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

Liz/Tech
Should we list Liz as the moderator for the tech issues forum? It just looks so lonely there by itself... --Ponytailguy 19:07, 22 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Yeah. 19:28, 22 May 2006 (PDT)

Gondwanaland must be split up
This article is enormous in an unwieldy way. I think the "tutorial" type info needs to be split off or something to make it easier for folks to find howto type info. --Guppymomma 14:45, 29 August 2006 (PDT)


 * I'm inclined to agree. In particular, I think the stuff about the specifics regarding boolean searches are clunky and not useful to 95% of the people who stumble across this page; they might do better on a subpage. --Ponytailguy 17:05, 29 August 2006 (PDT)


 * I think moving the interface and icon sections to their own page and all the searching infomation to it's own. Then the forum list, known bugs and the rest stays. --Angelbeaver (talk) 08:33, 30 August 2006 (PDT)

Updating moderator lists
I went looking for moderators recently (I'm trying to find out how to get Sage parley lockered), and realized that the list is quite out-of-date; some list Amphitrite as a moderator, while in other cases I've seen more moderation attention from OMs that didn't exist the last time it was updated. Also, the whole Faulkston thing.

Is there an updated list of current forum mods that can be placed here? I've been seeing signs of neglect recently, like chatlogs remaining for close to a week, and "please locker me" postcount threads surviving even longer. Would be nice to know who to poke for that. --Pauling 15:52, 4 November 2006 (PST)


 * From what I can tell, the moderator list is safely locked inside the heads of Three Rings staff. I wish they'd let the info out. The forums themselves do not seem to list the mods AFAIK. I wholeheartedly agree, an update might be nice (or just adding it to the forum itself so the wiki list doesn't have to be maintained). --Adramolek 00:18, 18 January 2007 (PST)


 * Updated. I have it on good authority that the moderator list is private information, since all the moderators pretty much moderate all of the forums. In any case, for problems, contacting any OM will do. --Adramolek 13:41, 26 January 2007 (PST)

Updating known bugs lists
I added the edit button bootchiness to the list of known bugs, since it seems like a safe bet that it's known about and being worked on. But the "mark all posts as read" bug does not seem to be happening. Was that fixed? Based on the description, I'm not experiencing it -- I don't see any weird error on the page. If that was fixed it should be removed. I left it out of uncertainty. --Adramolek 00:18, 18 January 2007 (PST)

Avatar Bugs and Caching
"(or it might just be a cache issue where you just need to wait a bit)."

Turns out it's just a caching problem. After uploading a new avatar, click on your My Profile link and this will display the previous avatar. However, if you Refresh (Internet Explorer) or Reload (Netscape / Firefox) this page, you will retrieve the new avatar.

Most browsers use HTTP HEAD or a variant of this command to determine if a file changed compared a file it has in its cache. A Refresh or Reload forces your browser to ignore the cache, but the forum system could also ensure it changes the avatar file's date upon receiving a new one. I'd have to trace the HTTP commands and responses to be certain, but the behaviour I'm seeing is consistent with file dates not changing. --Dobdobbodpa 21:47, 7 February 2007 (PST)
 * It's mentioned a little more clearly on avatar, but feel free to edit the section on either or both pages to clarify it. Keep the technical details to a minimum as folks generally are only looking for a how to fix the issue and not a lengthy explanation of how browsers work. --Guppymomma 07:44, 8 February 2007 (PST)