Clothing (Idea Links)

YPPedia links

 * Clothing

General

 * Things I've learned: Never put ugly/stupid things in your game. Everyone will want one. - Nemo
 * I long ago learned my lesson about changing existing clothes. Adding to is fine, but making a tertiary color would involve programmers redoing the recoloring code. - Nemo

Current new suggestions thread

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=10256
 * This index for the above thread is current as of this post:
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1589905#1589905

Nemo's Infinite Wisdom: The Director's Cut

 * New clothing must be distinct from previous clothing including clothing belonging to the opposite sex.
 * No bare chests, no chest hair.
 * We have no architecture for separate accessories (jewelry, bandoliers, jugs, etc.) yet.
 * The clothing must fit our theme (no religious costume, and we're still mostly in the western hemisphere in vaguely "pirate" times ~1600-1800. arabian, yes; japanese, not yet)

Technical

 * Anything that involves higher boots, higher pants, or higher shirts can't be done. They are already as high as they will go- this means no knee-high boots. Note that it is possible for torso items and lower-half items to fall down over boots and/or pants. (I'm not sure if a torso item can cover boots, though) Examples of this would be both captain's jackets, swashbuckler's jackets, gowns, and I think also the flare pants.
 * Anything that would not fall into the existing categories of hat, shirt, pants, and boots can't be done.
 * Anything that requires anti-aliasing between choosable colours won't work. This is why true tartan kilts seem to be an impossibility.
 * Anything that requires new poses to be added. Too much work.
 * Things that are simply too big (ie. wide) to allow room for other pirates. Pirates have to be able to fit in all the spaces they currently can while wearing your suggested clothing.

Practical

 * Items similar to existing items "but for the same gender" are a no-no. They have to be different from ALL existing items- this also includes some female items that don't fit the theme, while male versions would. eg. Male flare pants, conquistadora armour, female swashbuckler's jacket, etc...
 * Items that just aren't different enough, despite being pretty distinct. Just wear the item that's so similar, and then pretend you're wearing what you actually wanted ;) There's too many to name. A good example of what DOESN'T fit here would be the difference between the swashbuckler's jacket and the captains jacket. It had a sash, there's no inner colour, and it's much thinner, so it got added.
 * Probably likewise for items that are "like an existing item, but with two colours/one colour." Why not just ask for the existing item to be changed?
 * Items that don't fit the theme. This includes: Robes, asian pirates, (yes, they existed, no, they're not part of the theme) and colour combinations that are OBVIOUSLY too modern. (think green and blue striped shirts. What sort of pirate wore green and blue stripes?)

Ideas rejected before (AKA the NO List)

 * See The Anti-list:Clothing

Bandages

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1329961#1329961

Barrel

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=30325#30325

Bunny ears and tail

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1457257#1457257

Change wearable by anyone to a gender specific message

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=21922

Footwear turns into socks

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1535310#1535310

Hats turn into bandanas

 * Bandanas would disappear
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=478871#478871

Doubloon costs

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=28355

Fish pieces

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1200562#1200562

Curled at top

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1106913#1106913

Don't look like socks

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1149679#1149679

Leprechaun

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1580305#1580305

With stripey socks

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=144699#144699

Without socks

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=164368#164368

Dress slippers

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=66915#66915

Each item in pair a different color

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1109066#1109066

High heels

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1474283#1474283

Jester slippers

 * Jester hats are Anti-listed
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=733555#733555

Sandals

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=164368#164368

Glasses/Monocle

 * They're too small to be easily seen
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=85206#85206
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=136051#136051
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=315427#315427

Atlantean helmet for people

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1354927#1354927

Combined with others

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1461371#1461371

Longer knot, no top

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1528762#1528762

Barbarian crown

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=667056#667056

Barnabas the Pale's

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1097572#1097572

Battle helmet

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1270951#1270951

Bearskin

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=155076#155076

Beret

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=520419#520419

Bicorne

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=402583#402583

Bolero

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=159915#159915

Bonnet

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1344586#1344586

Balmoral

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1578173#1578173

Brimmed sailor's hat

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=852585#852585

Cavalier wig

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1174552#1174552

Chainmail coif

 * May not be possible since it overlaps the torso area
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=156736#156736

Changes pirate's appearance to a ghost, skellie or zombie

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=900258#900258

Chopstick twirled in hair

 * Not actually a hat but would be implemented in the hat layer of clothing similar to how wigs are currently done
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1512518#1512518

Chullo
http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1551788#1551788

Cloth wrap (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=231099#231099

Conical princess

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1184409#1184409

Coonskin

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=154868#154868

Crooked fancy

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1106913#1106913

Feathered tricorne

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=178123#178123

Fedora

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=196548#196548

Floppy 'renhat'

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=129096#129096
 * http://shop.store.yahoo.com/greatsword/floppyhat.html

Full-face helmet

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1184394#1184394

Grenadier

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1461371#1461371

Governor-style wig

 * With or without attached tricorne
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=722856#722856

Headband

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=618846#618846

Jeweled turban

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=235359#235359

Keffiyeh

 * May not be possible since it overlaps the torso area
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1551788#1551788

Kiss me quick

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1184409#1184409

Lit matches in

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=698252#698252

Mask

 * Mask is listed under hats as this is the way they are implemented

Monkey, octopus and parrot

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1294424#1294424

Unisex

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=161795

Paper

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1266145#1266145

Peak cap

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=128921#128921
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1184400#1184400
 * Full bandolier 'soldier' outfit

Pilgrim hat (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=618841#618841

Quadcorn cap

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1562765#1562765

Round-brimmed (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=231099#231099

Sailor cap

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=926681#926681

Shako

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1311984#1311984

Snood (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=339295#339295
 * This is actually a hair covering

Sombrero

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1104218#1104218

Straw

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1184409#1184409

Boater

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=119692#119692

Conical

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1189517#1189517

Tall (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=974322#974322

Tam

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=676762#676762

Top

 * Top hats would look out of place. - Nemo
 * I'm becoming slightly more accepting to this borderline garment. It's now into the realm of the fez, where I consider it marginally possible, but feel the populace would prefer other things first. - Nemo

Make permanently available

 * Special limited time availability item purchasable from the palace shoppe
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=145927

Color mismatch with some clothing

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1142521#1142521

Leather with feather

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1177162#1177162

Tudor
http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1551788#1551788

Tuque

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=483276#483276

Two color sleeping cap

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=138138#138138

Ushanka
http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1551788#1551788

Watch cap

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=231099#231099

Wide-brimmed hat without feather

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1149679#1149679

Veil restricts chat channels available

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1112119#1112119

Viking Santa

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1333391#1333391

Visored cap

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1184400#1184400

Zorro (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=154954#154954

Hidden trigger conditions

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=515552#515552

Improved preview

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1263356#1263356

Kraken's skin material

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=705394#705394

Landlubber

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1525227#1525227

Laurel recipe

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=11962

Chain leggings

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1580305#1580305

Colonial dress

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=400841#400841

Gypsy dress

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=315090#315090

Hosen/tights (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=155000#155000

Kilt (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=138102#138102 (in a locked thread)
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=988297#988297

Kimono

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1512518#1512518

Baggy (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=631063#631063

Breeches

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=119692#119692

Fancy (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1520694#1520694

Jester

 * Jester hats are Anti-listed
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=733555#733555

Match fancy boots (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1264075#1264075

Poofy (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=198086#198086

Short (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=231099#231099

Witch

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1580305#1580305

Wrapped (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=72460#72460
 * Turban complement

Short gown

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1580305#1580305

Less formal

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=879083#879083

Grass

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=73220#73220
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=395860#395860

Panel

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1149132#1149132

Shorter

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1181459#1181459

Maid/servant outfit

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1488236#1488236

Ninja suit

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1512518#1512518

Pipes

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=24857

Pyjamas (top and bottom)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1190122#1190122

Fancy

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=738193#738193

Decorations

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=230938#230938

Restrictions

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=99648

Recolorable metal parts

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=311665#311665

Solid base color with pair of highlights

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1263363#1263363

Sorting order and name fixes

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=415716#415716

Stubble (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=68461#68461

Abaya (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=608729#608729

Admiral jacket

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1580305#1580305

Atlantean armor

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1476777#1476777

Basque

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1105732#1105732

Big gold bracers (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1200562#1200562

Choli/sari top

 * Short sleeve/waist shirt to go with wrap
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=61194#61194

Close-fitted cutaway jacket with vest

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=159915#159915

Fancy fur-lined 'king'

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=61275#61275

Fur (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=154954#154954

Long open

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1149679#1149679

Pea

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=387182#387182

Sailor's short (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=64533#64533
 * Approximately waist length
 * More dashing than vest/sash
 * http://www.swordsofhonor.com/greatsword/highseascoat.html

Coconut top

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=73220#73220
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=395860#395860

Crossed knife-belt top

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1562765#1562765

Disha dasha (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=608729#608729

Dressing gown

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1184409#1184409

Flamenco dress (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=159915#159915

Fur cape

 * Cannot be a separate item of clothing worn on top of another
 * Cannot be floor length
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1562765#1562765

Gored skirt

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=180972#180972

Item with hood on back

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=61117#61117

Jester top

 * Jester hats are Anti-listed
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=733555#733555

Kaftan

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=608729#608729

Midriff top with cape

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1580305#1580305

Musketeer vest

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1255593#1255593

Nightgown

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=597143#597143

Nightshirt

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=597143#597143

Open jacket and shirt

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1181459#1181459

Pilgrim top (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=618841#618841

Plain shirt (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=67650#67650
 * Non-froofy
 * I'm really not terribly interested in it. You can't stand having a sash? - Nemo

Ring mail

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1333399#1333399

Sailor top (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=85356#85356
 * Old dress top

Shalwar kameez (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=608729#608729

Shawl

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=61175#61175

Shell bra

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1200562#1200562

And plaid (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1425743#1425743

Loose-sleeved

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1242472#1242472

Sleeveless with scarf (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1355833#1355833

Two color stripey

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=662940#662940

With leather corset (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=862451#862451

With suspenders

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=61179#61179

Thobe (female)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=608729#608729

Tunic (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=155000#155000

Belted

 * With matching large-belted, possibly sailor pants?
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=62641#62641

Toga

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=743959#743959

And apron

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=178123#178123

Simple

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1175988#1175988

Sleeveless (male)

 * Too similar to existing shirt and vest?
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=61918#61918

Stripey

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=631044#631044

With scarf (male)

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1355833#1355833

Viking breastplate

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=1296523#1296523

Waistcoat

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=119692#119692

Female

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=61926#61926

Male

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=38458#38458

Walking jacket

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=665894#665894

Viking

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=38486#38486
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=42750#42750
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=61137#61137
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=5834
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=156736#156736
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=13786
 * Oddly enough this thread is about shoppe and stall suggestions
 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?p=265925#265925

Expansion pack

 * Perhaps when we add the 'Viking' expansion we'll put in Mead. There were some Vikings on Bay to Breakers, we pillaged them a bit. There were also people from the 'Land that Time Forgot' towing a volcano. But, I digress. - Cleaver
 * This might be a joke

White looks grey

 * http://forums.puzzlepirates.com/community/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=20703