Category talk:Pirates

For adding a pirate category to someone, how much are they needed to play an ocean before it should be added? For example, I particpated in the solo sloop blockade on Cobalt for a Familar, but that has really been my only activity on that ocean, but I helped Hydrophobia win Nevermore.... So would that mean a Cobalt link would be needed or not? I also play on Ice in a limited role and I am the Monarch of a top 10 flag, would that also mean I need a link for there? In the end I guess I can also link to sage since I also have a pirate there too..... -Jacktheblack 01:04, 9 February 2006 (PST)
 * I signed up to reserve my name on all oceans, but I only put the category tag for the ocean on which I actually play. I've debated both ways of doing it, but decided to only do public, known, actively-linked pirates. Most YPPedia entries will be made by players other than the one controlling the characters. As those players are unable to determine whether same-name pirates are played by the same player or not, for consistency's sake, I only put categories on pirates that are openly, actively played by the same player. In your case, I'd personally put the Midnight and Ice tags on it. Had you actually won the Cobalt familiar, I'd put the Cobalt tag on it too, but not just for participation. That's just my PoV, though. It's ultimately a judgment call. I suppose the other way of saying it is that I put the category tag up for an ocean if the pirate, on that ocean, would fulfil the vanity guidelines on his or her own. Yeah, that's better. --AtteSmythe 12:39, 9 February 2006 (PST)
 * So is this how we do things; that is, the category tag only applies for oceans the pirate would qualify as notable on? I just saw this and wasn't sure, because it does seem like the approach has varied at other points. --Emufarmers 17:59, 28 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Heh. Yeah, I'm with Atte's explanation, which is partially why I removed the other categories. The other reason being that he's only a pirate on the only ocean he even qualifies on. However, if we implement the current planned content requirements, pages such as that will go away. I still believe that you should qualify on an ocean to have the category listed, and it is why I only have two categories on my page, and not the, um, six? I could really claim. This is something that has been debated quite a bit, with little consensus. --Fannon 18:10, 28 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Mmm. Well, just from a technical standpoint, I could see one problem with Atte's approach, simply because the portrait templates automatically add ocean categories if you add the gallary for that ocean; looking at Fannon, I've noticed you actually have gallaries for Sage and Hunter, as well as Midnight and Cobalt.  If you added those gallaries with one of the templates which allows for more, you would be listed on those two oceans as well, notability be damned. (That's probably a relatively rare occurance, but it's still worth pointing out.) I don't think the vanity guideline revisions currently up for voting would really address what to do in these cases. --Emufarmers 18:26, 28 May 2006 (PDT)
 * Yeah, and neither of those two galleries you linked actually have a portrait of me in them. And again, that's why I *haven't* added them. That's also why I refrain from using the portrait box template thingy that auto-adds the categories. I much prefer manual additions in this case. And again, this has been debated with little consensus. I am firmly in the "must qualify on an ocean to have the category included" side, which is why I go for manual additions. --Fannon 18:37, 28 May 2006 (PDT)

I'm afraid I disagree. Once a pirate qualifies as notable, I believe that the pirate should be listed on all oceans that he/she actively plays on. (For example, I'm semi-active on Hunter. And I was once very active on Cobalt.)  --Barrister 21:51, 28 May 2006 (PDT)
 * My argument isn't so much that they shouldn't be allowed to list it on individual pages. I just don't think they should be listed in the individual categories with the real "notable" pirates who *do* qualify on those oceans. --Fannon 13:18, 29 May 2006 (PDT)


 * In the past, I just kinda assumed that a pirate would have the oceans they play on listed. After reading the above, I agree with the idea that one needs to be notable on that ocean to be categorized. No issues at all with a note saying where else they play. For example, I have Zava's everywhere, but only should be categorized for Sage and maaaaybe Ice and Midnight, if I dug around for reasons. Nobody who goes digging for pirates who have done Neat Stuff on Cobalt will care about what I've done on Ice. --Zava 13:46, 29 May 2006 (PDT)

Logon Button
I think we should have a new category to start a Wiki petition. Category: Pirates_who_want_to_see_a_larger_Logon_button. That's all. :) --Redbeardsage 17:11, 20 April 2006 (PDT)
 * I think "logon" would be lowercase, according to what was decided regarding capitalization. :D --Emufarmers 17:22, 20 April 2006 (PDT)

Auto-categories via template
I'm not familiar with the portrait template thingee, can someone (admin) change this to reflect that they are added magically or (non-admin) suggest some wording to that end? Thanks! --Guppymomma 08:01, 24 June 2006 (PDT)

Subcategorising
I was pondering whether or not it would be a good idea to subcategorise a few categories beneath the Pirates category. Examples could include Island Designers, Shanty Jockeys and Familiar Winners. Thoughts? --Featherfin 08:20, 12 July 2006 (PDT)
 * That would make a lot of sense. --Barrister 12:36, 12 July 2006 (PDT)